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Welcome to the Coxswain's Grot - Issue 108.

Fellow Submariners, welcome to this fortnights edition. Good news sad news and hopefully informative and a few laughs in between. And straight into it.

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Submarine Institute of Australia
   
 
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Submarine Institute of Australia - 18 October 2021
 
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SIA Media Release - Stellar line-up of conference speakers
Submarine Institute of Australia - 8 October 2021
 
Submarine News
   
 
Secure you seat: Sovereign capability, submarines and future industries
InnovationAus.com - 18 October 2021
Australia’s Ambassador to the US Arthur Sinodinos, South Australian Premier Steven Marshall, Silicon Quantum Computing chief executive ...
important industries of the future,” she said. The CAPABILITY: Submarines, Industrial Development, and Future Industries event will be
 
 
Nuclear submarines look more and more like a mirage
@AuManufacturing - 18 October 2021
Analysis by Peter Roberts
. It is not doing so. See also DITCH NUCLEAR AND EVOLVE THE COLLINS CLASS, OUR BEST SUBMARINE OPTION – BY PETER ROBERTS . Picture:
 
 
Barracuda Class Subs provide deep strike capability to the French Navy
Naval Post - 18 October 2021
Last November, the French Navy received the first of six Suffren-class or Barracuda nuclear assault submarines (SSN) from Naval Group to ...
until the 2060s, and these six submarines will undoubtedly be a significant component of the country’s future submarine capabilities. Most
 
 
French envoy in Canberra after subs row
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 17 October 2021
The French ambassador has returned to Australia and gone into quarantine in Canberra after being dramatically recalled to Paris three weeks ago in protest at Scott Morrisons decision to end the 90bn submarine contract with France.
The French ambassador has returned to Australia and gone into quarantine in Canberra after being dramatically recalled to Paris three weeks ago in protest at Scott Morrisons decision to end the 90bn submarine contract with France.
 
 
Procurement: The Fewer, The Better And Cheaper
StrategyPage - 17 October 2021
October 17, 2021: In mid-September Australia cancelled a $65 billion contract with a French firm to build twelve Attack class subs. These ...
all six, instead of just three, of its current Collins class diesel-electric submarines. This was necessary to deal with delays in the
 
 
'We will reconcile with France': Christopher Pyne
Sky News Australia - 17 October 2021
While the French "won fair and square" in their bid for a conventional submarine, the National Security Committee has shown a previously ...
a nuclear powered submarine “off the shelf” from the US or the United Kingdom and in that way, have an Australian nuclear powered submarine
 
 
‘Extreme urgency’: Tony Abbott calls for nuclear submarine stop gap
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 16 October 2021
Former prime minister Tony Abbott has urged the government to obtain retiring British or American nuclear powered-submarines as soon as possible, reflecting concern the new AUKUS security pact struck between Australia, the US and UK wont deliver new ...
Former prime minister Tony Abbott has urged the government to obtain retiring British or American nuclear powered-submarines as soon as possible, reflecting concern the new AUKUS security pact struck between Australia, the US and UK wont deliver new ...
 
 
UK poised to confirm funding for mini nuclear reactors for green energy
MSN - Australia - 16 October 2021
The government is poised to approve funding for a fleet of Rolls-Royce mini nuclear reactors that the prime minister hopes will help the UK ...
modular reactors were first developed in the 1950s for use in nuclear-powered submarines. Since then Rolls-Royce has designed reactors for
 
 
Europe’s Selfish Reaction to Australia’s Submarine Purchase By Heribert Dieter
Battle Space Updates - 16 October 2021
11 Oct 21. Some EU member-states are furious at Australia’s decision to abandon a submarine contract with France. But Europe’s persistent ...
Some EU member-states are furious at Australia’s decision to abandon a submarine contract with France. But Europe’s persistent inability to
 
 
A deep dive into what it takes to operate a nuclear sub fleet
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 16 October 2021
Hyman G Rickover, the father of the US nuclear navy, used to test the wits of officer candidates during interviews by shortening the front two legs of their chairs.
Hyman G Rickover, the father of the US nuclear navy, used to test the wits of officer candidates during interviews by shortening the front two legs of their chairs.
 
 
Collins-class submarines could serve until 2050 while Australia waits for nuclear boats
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 15 October 2021
Australias Chief of Navy says the nation may have to continue to operate the ageing Collins-class submarines for another 30 years while it acquires nuclear-powered vessels, conceding by then they will be at far greater risk of detection.
Australias Chief of Navy says the nation may have to continue to operate the ageing Collins-class submarines for another 30 years while it acquires nuclear-powered vessels, conceding by then they will be at far greater risk of detection.
 
 
Leeuwin plan stalls
Fremantle Herald Interactive - 15 October 2021
MPs Josh Wilson and Lisa O’Malley are disappointed community access to Leeuwin’s ovals has been held up. Photo by Libby Hynes. THE ...
and not a deal to actually purchase submarines. Mr Wilson said it could be 25 years before the first nuclear submarines were delivered. by
 
 
Can Australia get second-hand nuclear submarines? The US option
The Strategist - 15 October 2021
In my previous post , I looked at some of the issues involved in the Royal Australian Navy acquiring or leasing older nuclear-powered ...
a key element in the RAN’s submarine transition to help build Australia’s understanding of operating nuclear submarines in a relatively low-
 
 
Seawolf Submarine Collision Surfaces Importance of "Fly-by-Wire" Technology
Warrior Maven: Military and defense news - 15 October 2021
"Fly-by-wire” technology allows for depth, speed and descent to be regulated by computer automation - preventing unwanted collisions
used in the Los Angeles-class,” a 2016 Stanford University “The Future of Nuclear Submarines” paper by Alexander Yachanin writes. U.S. Navy
 
 
Opening statement: Senate Inquiry into Australias sovereign naval shipbuilding capability
Mirage News - 15 October 2021
Ms Kate Louis
, and additional undersea capabilities. The decision to acquire nuclear-powered submarines marks the beginning of a new era in Australian
 
 
Nuclear-powered submarines welcomed
Mirage News - 15 October 2021
Former Royal Navy (RN) nuclear submarine executive officer, Captain Henry Finnis (retd), sees the benefits of Australia acquiring the ...
into submarines in the early 1970s when the RN was building its nuclear submarine fleet. “I’d heard a fair bit about what submarines were
 
 
Inquiry to question whether Australia needs nuclear industry to support submarine program
MSN - Australia - 15 October 2021
Nuclear agencies will face questions over whether Australia needs an atomic industry to support a planned nuclear-powered submarine fleet ...
are no countries with nuclear submarines that do not have a domestic nuclear industry. “Either way there would be nuclear reactors sitting
 
 
AUKUS: Shaking up the Indo-Pacific status quo
Defence Connect - 15 October 2021
The AUKUS trilateral partnership between Australia, the UK and the US is a significant step towards countering the rise of China’s ...
gears inclined towards a nuclear-powered submarine fleet came down to the absence of limitations. Nuclear-powered submarines can be
 
 
Japan launches, names second Taigei-class diesel-electric attack submarine
Naval Today - 15 October 2021
Hakugei, the second Taigei-class unit in the Japan Maritime Self Defense Force’s (JMSDF) new class of diesel-electric attack submarines, ...
It has a diesel-electric propulsion. The Taigei submarine is equipped with a sonar system with improved detection capability. What is more,
 
 
‘We’ve got absolutely nothing’ to defend Australia amid growing conflict in China
Cairns Post (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 14 October 2021
The Australian’s Foreign Editor Greg Sheridan says the problem with Australia’s nuclear submarines is “we are not ...
The Australian’s Foreign Editor Greg Sheridan says the problem with Australia’s nuclear submarines is “we are not going to get them” for
 
 
Manufacturing – the Nuclear Option
@AuManufacturing - 14 October 2021
By Michael Sharpe
Dan Walton said Australia’s switch to nuclear-powered submarines means it’s time to reconsider our ban on civil nuclear energy. “SMRs
 
 
The AUKUS deal says more about US plans to take on China and Biden will admit
Business Insider Australia - 14 October 2021
Royal Australian Navy diesel-electric submarine HMAS Waller in Sydney Harbor, November 2, 2016. PETER PARKS/AFP via Getty Images President ...
to provide Australia with nuclear propulsion technology to power a new fleet of submarines. Nuclear power allows submarines to have
 
 
AUKUS debate continues: is a submarine a ship or a boat?
Brisbane Times (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 14 October 2021
Culture Books WordPlay Things turned raucous over AUKUS. Last month’s WordPlay queried how to say this newborn ...
sink a ship without engaging a lousy torpedo. French flags fly during the launch of the country’s nuclear-powered submarine, “Le Terrible”,
 
 
Will Saab expertise bolster the Collins upgrade program?
Australian Defence Magazine - 14 October 2021
As Defence looks to undertake a major upgrade program of its Collins-class submarines to bridge the gap with RAN’s future nuclear- ...
major upgrade program of its Collins-class submarines to bridge the gap with RAN’s future nuclear-powered submarine capability, one company
 
 
South Korea just launched itself into a very exclusive club. Here's why its new sub-launched missile sets it apart.
Business Insider Australia - 13 October 2021
A South Korean Navy’s Type 209-class submarine surfaces during the international fleet review near Busan, October 7, 2008. KIM JAE-HWAN/AFP ...
your own nuclear weapons, what a great idea to have this submarine ready, to have the missile ready, and only have to build the nuclear
 
 
Navy engineer, wife face judge in submarine spy case
News.com.au (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 13 October 2021
A former U.S. Navy nuclear engineer and his wife on Tuesday faced their first court hearing on charges they ...
first court hearing on charges they attempted to sell secrets about nuclear submarines. This report produced by Chris Dignam. Read More
 
 
Dr Alan Finkel says nuclear energy ‘worth investigating’ in Australia
Herald Sun (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 13 October 2021
Nuclear energy in Australia is “definitely worth investigating” but would need political will to become a reality ...
.” Mr Taylor said Australia’s commitment to build a new fleet of submarines powered by nuclear energy was a “big step forward”. “But right
 
 
Australia’s nuclear-powered submarines should be built in America
The Strategist - 13 October 2021
The first of anything is expensive. Theodore Wright studied this in the 1930s and found a mathematical relationship between how many of a ...
that for nuclear submarines. Look at Britain’s difficulties as it builds seven boats in its Astute-class nuclear-powered attack submarine
 
 
From the Magazine: AUKUS – A VIEW FROM LONDON
Asia Pacific Defence Reporter - 13 October 2021
Just as the year’s largest international defence gathering, DSEI 21 in London, was drawing to an end the bombshell announcement on 16 ...
to a sudden end the existing plans for the replacement of the RAN’s Collins Class submarines by a new diesel-electric powered design, led by
 
 
From the Magazine: COLLINS LOTE AND SEA 1439 CAPABILITY ENHANCEMENTS
Asia Pacific Defence Reporter - 13 October 2021
The decision that Australia will acquire nuclear submarines has enormous ramifications, the consequences of which are only now being worked ...
so abruptly. The earliest that an Australian designed and built nuclear submarine could enter service would be around 2040. There has been
 
 
Union calls for local nuclear industry | The Australian
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 13 October 2021
A peak union is calling on Australia to develop a nuclear industry to bolster national security. The Daily Telegraph reports the Australian Workers Union has made the call to action –for the sake of national security and to protect Australia from China ...
A peak union is calling on Australia to develop a nuclear industry to bolster national security. The Daily Telegraph reports the Australian Workers Union has made the call to action –for the sake of national security and to protect Australia from China .
 
 
Mission Zero: What nuclear energy means for Australia
The Courier-Mail (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 13 October 2021
One of Australia’s leading experts on nuclear power has explained how it works and what is stopping it from ...
acquisition of nuclear-powered submarines did not mean Australia would be developing a nuclear power industry. But proponents say nuclear is
 
 
Defence and Naval Group legal costs revealed in bid to keep original submarine deal cost hidden
MSN - Australia - 13 October 2021
Defence and the French company Naval Group spends almost a quarter of a million dollars on taxpayer-funded lawyers trying to keep hidden ...
to keep hidden the original price quoted for Australia's now dumped future submarine project. In September a $90 billion contract between
 
 
Secret deal behind Australia’s nuclear ban
Gold Coast Bulletin (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 13 October 2021
The powerbroker who proposed the 1999 nuclear power ban has broken her 22-year silence on the little deal that ...
Picture: Noel Kessel “The nuclear submarines raised eyebrows, but not to do with nuclear per se,” he said. Announcing the submarine deal, Mr
 
 
US submarine may have made a 'stupid mistake' in the South China Sea on the recent collision: expert
Global Times / 环球时报 - 13 October 2021
Xisha Islands in the South China Sea File Photo: VCG US officials recently revealed that the US Seawolf-class nuclear attack submarine USS ...
, submarines would change to positive sonar for detection. But some recent analysis suggest that submarines would also use passive sonar to
 
 
Any ‘serious conversation’ about net zero must include nuclear energy | The Australian
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 13 October 2021
Any "serious conversation” about a net zero emissions target by 2050 has to include nuclear energy, according to Darwin Bureau Chief Matt Cunningham. The Daily Telegraph is reporting the Australian Workers Union is calling for a nuclear industry to ...
Any "serious conversation” about a net zero emissions target by 2050 has to include nuclear energy, according to Darwin Bureau Chief Matt Cunningham. The Daily Telegraph is reporting the Australian Workers Union is calling for a nuclear industry to ...
 
 
All the way with USA the smart move for Australia
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 13 October 2021
For a country in a predominantly maritime region where the tyranny of distance is unrelenting and with foreign adversaries sharing your oceans, the strategic decision to acquire nuclear-powered submarines known as SSNs is the right one for Australia and ...
For a country in a predominantly maritime region where the tyranny of distance is unrelenting and with foreign adversaries sharing your oceans, the strategic decision to acquire nuclear-powered submarines known as SSNs is the right one for Australia and .
 
 
US Virginia-class submarines ‘best choice for nuclear fleet’: Richard Spencer
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 12 October 2021
The USs Virginia-class nuclear submarine is the best option for Australia according to a former US Navy secretary who believes training for Australian crews on the subs could begin right now.
The USs Virginia-class nuclear submarine is the best option for Australia according to a former US Navy secretary who believes training for Australian crews on the subs could begin right now.
 
 
Breathtaking Hypocrisy: France and Its Naval Sales
Future Directions International - 12 October 2021
Paris’s anger at having lost the contract to supply conventionally-powered submarines to the Royal Australian Navy is redolent with ...
-class helicopter carriers is not the same as selling nuclear submarines. Selling nuclear submarines is a different matter. Yet, that is
 
 
Video: Naval Group Unveils XLUUV Demonstrator
Naval News - 12 October 2021
During the fifth edition of the Naval Innovation Days, Naval Group unveiled for the first time to the public its Extra Large Unmanned ...
News that future missions may include mine counter measure (MCM) or anti-submarine warfare (ASW) as the company’s F21 heavy weight torpedo
 
 
From the Magazine: A DECISION OF ENORMOUS CONSEQUENCES TAKEN WITH LITTLE ANALYSIS
Asia Pacific Defence Reporter - 12 October 2021
The more that is known about the circumstances leading up to the September 16 announcement that Australia will acquire nuclear powered ...
the US would be prepared to help Australia develop a fleet of nuclear submarines to better counter the growing threat of China. The First
 
 
Helping industry reap the benefits of the AUKUS deal
Defence Connect - 12 October 2021
Minister for Defence Industry Melissa Price reflects on the new opportunities available to local businesses under the trilateral AUKUS ...
industry and the wider Australian economy from our acquisition of nuclear-powered submarines will be immense. Naturally, with a change of
 
 
Defence strategy sunk without a clear assessment
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 12 October 2021
Nuclear-powered submarines are the biggest investment by an Australian government, yet on the information available it is not possible to know if they are the right investment. Perhaps they are, but the public is being asked to accept it on faith and ...
Nuclear-powered submarines are the biggest investment by an Australian government, yet on the information available it is not possible to know if they are the right investment. Perhaps they are, but the public is being asked to accept it on faith and ...
 
 
Australia's AUKUS submarine deal strikes blow to arms contractors
Nikkei Asian Review - 11 October 2021
Small firms in scuttled contracts for French-made vessels face stormy future Small firms in scuttled contracts for French-made vessels face ...
led the Combat System Integration for the Commonwealth of Australia's Future Submarine Program since 2016. We are immensely proud that over
 
 
AUKUS adds ambiguity to the Australia–New Zealand alliance
The Strategist - 11 October 2021
The Australian government often describes Australia and New Zealand as ‘natural allies’. But Prime Minister Scott Morrison’s announcement ...
. And Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has confirmed that any nuclear-powered submarines Australia acquires under AUKUS will not be allowed
 
 
AUKUS, nuclear submarines and the tyranny of default thinking
The Strategist - 11 October 2021
Now that the initial euphoria over the announcement of the AUKUS agreement and Australia’s decision to acquire nuclear submarines has ...
best guess is that the eight submarines will cost more than the 12 French Attack-class boats. Nuclear submarines are larger and more complex
 
 
Australian Submarines May Go Nuclear But Our Power Stations Never Will
Solar Power Blog - 11 October 2021
Australia recently decided to buy nuclear-powered submarines as part of the AUKUS pact with the UK and United States. Assuming it goes ...
Navy to acquire submarines, I would say buy non-nuclear ones made overseas, but build an uncrewed supply submarine here. Nuclear Power — A
 
 
ADM October 2021
Australian Defence Magazine - 11 October 2021
Welcome to the October 2021 edition of ADM: Defence in the North. Group Editor Ewen Levick and Editor Nigel Pittaway open this month's ...
the Attack class submarines in favour of a nuclear-powered alternative under the AUKUS agreement. As this means the Collins class submarines
 







 
 
US Navy engineer tried to leak nuclear submarine secrets: FBI
Brisbane Times (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 11 October 2021
World North America Courts A US Navy nuclear engineer and his wife have been charged with repeatedly trying to ...
of the design, operations and performance of Virginia-class nuclear submarine reactors. Toebbe and his wife were charged with conspiracy to
 
 
Local firms sink $120m on subs
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 10 October 2021
Small and medium enterprises face an estimated 120m hit from the cancellation of the Attack-class submarines, after investing in new systems, equipment, security and personnel to win contracts with Frances Naval Group.
Small and medium enterprises face an estimated 120m hit from the cancellation of the Attack-class submarines, after investing in new systems, equipment, security and personnel to win contracts with Frances Naval Group.
 
 
Navy man explains the big deal about subs
MalaysiaNow - 10 October 2021
Malaysia's first French-made submarine reaches the naval base at Port Klang in this Sept 3, 2009 file picture. Photo: AFP
. These platforms can provide counter-measures against submarines such as torpedoes, rocket launchers and anti-submarine rockets,” he said.
 
 
US and UK begin jostling to supply Australia with nuclear submarine fleet
ABC News - 10 October 2021
Just before the outbreak of World War I, the fledgling Royal Australian Navy turned to the "mother country" for its first submarine and ...
Australia to replace the Collins-class fleet. Others inside the defence industry believe any nuclear-powered Australian submarine will need
 
 
French envoy to Australia: Deceitful sub deal raises risks
Channel 9 News - 10 October 2021
France's ambassador to Australia says Australian officials lied to his face and raised the risk of confrontation in Asia by crafting a ...
at an agreement for Australia to obtain a fleet of eight nuclear-powered submarines built with US technology. RELATED: Morrison insists
 
 
Here's what we can gather about the US nuclear attack submarine collision in the South China Sea
ABC News - 9 October 2021
A nuclear-powered submarine colliding with an unknown "object" under one of the world's busiest shipping lanes is rarely good news – but is ...
-case scenario? The USS Connecticut is both a nuclear-powered and nuclear-armed submarine, and with a nuclear reactor on board, the risk of
 
 
Down periscope! How well do you know submarines?
Australia News - The Guardian - 9 October 2021
Was a royal family member once stuck in a manhole? Where is Australia’s first submarine? Test your nautical knowledge with our quick quiz
Down periscope! How well do you know submarines?
 
 
French subs deal: Why axing French subs deal makes sense for Australia in an increasingly dangerous world
The West Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 9 October 2021
In an extraordinarily long line of Australian defence procurement blunders, the Turnbull Government’s decision to ...
the diesel-powered submarines could have been switched to nuclear is baseless. It would have meant rewriting Australia’s nuclear policy,
 
 
When ineptitude goes nuclear
The Saturday Paper - 9 October 2021
The decision by the Morrison government to get nuclear-powered submarines rather than conventionally powered ones is correct. But like so ...
 
 
 
BRITISH SUBMARINERS PAY RESPECTS TO INDONESIAN COMRADES
Vigilance - The Security Magazine - 8 October 2021
Royal Navy sailors and submariners today honoured the 53 crew of Indonesian submarine KRI Nanggala with commemorations spanning the globe.
with the loss of all hands having conducted torpedo drills. Mr Atkinson said: “The loss of any submarine or its crew is felt very strongly
 
 
Australia's sub secrecy 'childish': France
The Canberra Times (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 8 October 2021
French Ambassador Jean-Pierre Thebault says Australia lied about the dumped submarine deal. Australia's claim it ...
lied about the dumped submarine deal. Australia's claim it couldn't consult France about torpedoing a $90 billion submarine contract has
 
 
Match fit and well-equipped
Defence Connect - 8 October 2021
Brigadier Marcus Simson, defence adviser at the British high commission, explains how enhanced technology sharing arrangements and a joint ...
Royal Australian Navy to develop and operate safely its own nuclear-powered submarines, creating a new sovereign capability and industrial
 
 
Nobody’s really interested in the nuclear option
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 8 October 2021
Australians may be open to nuclear power, as evidenced by Tuesdays Newspoll. But nuclear is not open for them.
Australians may be open to nuclear power, as evidenced by Tuesdays Newspoll. But nuclear is not open for them.
 
 
S.Korea launches advanced submarine rescue ship
Vishva Times - 7 October 2021
South Korea on Thursday launched a new 5,600-tonne-class submarine rescue vessel capable of conducting rescue operations in the deep sea ...
South Korea on Thursday launched a new 5,600-tonne-class submarine rescue vessel capable of conducting rescue operations in the deep sea
 
 
Nuclear power in Australia: The pros and cons
Beaudesert Times (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 7 October 2021
Two weeks ago, Australia and the US announced a deal for the funding of a fleet of new nuclear-powered attack ...
the US announced a deal for the funding of a fleet of new nuclear-powered attack submarines for patrolling the Indo-Pacific, all part of the
 
 
Nuclear submarines will propel Australia into a new strategic league
The Strategist - 7 October 2021
In a world largely inured to shocks, the announcement that Australia, in partnership with the United States and the United Kingdom, would ...
with the United States and the United Kingdom, would acquire nuclear-powered submarines was a bombshell. We haven’t over-egged this
 
 
Former Officials Call For AUKUS Submarines To Use Low Enriched Uranium
Breaking Defense - 7 October 2021
Former Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull told Breaking Defense that his nation must pursue a low enriched uranium submarine ...
are urging President Joe Biden to commit the United States to designing future submarines using low enriched uranium, a material capable of
 
 
Perth to host nuclear submarine in AUKUS deal
Sound Telegraph (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 7 October 2021
Finance Minister Simon Birmingham has confirmed a nuclear-powered submarine will likely be stationed in Perth for ...
skilled submariners who have themselves played key role in the Collins Class, which is now one of the best performing conventional submarine
 
 
Our nuclear subs fantasy adds up to military net zero
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 7 October 2021
This week Beijing has been threatening Taiwan with war, as it sends more than 50 jet fighters a day into Taiwans air space, forcing the Taiwanese to respond with their own air force. The incursions have included Chinese nuclear-capable bombers. If ...
This week Beijing has been threatening Taiwan with war, as it sends more than 50 jet fighters a day into Taiwans air space, forcing the Taiwanese to respond with their own air force. The incursions have included Chinese nuclear-capable bombers. If ...
 
 
Kerry Says Biden Was 'Literally Not Aware' Of AUKUS Deal Fallout
International Business Times Australia - 6 October 2021
President Joe Biden "literally" had no idea of the anger that a secretive nuclear submarine deal that the United States cut with the United ...
Biden "literally" had no idea of the anger that a secretive nuclear submarine deal that the United States cut with the United Kingdom and
 
 
Wong backs subs decision but commends WA for the fight
The Age (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 6 October 2021
Labor senate leader Penny Wong says a McGowan government campaign to bring lucrative submarine maintenance work to ...
the Morrison government decided to keep $8.4 billion worth of Collins Class submarine maintenance, known as full cycle docking, in SA as
 
 
AUKUS could help fill the gaps in ANZUS
The Strategist - 6 October 2021
What’s the essence of the US–Australia alliance? For the late Des Ball , it lay in close intelligence cooperation. Many would point to ...
(and UK) personnel across Australia’s submarine enterprise. One reason the decision to acquire nuclear submarines is so encouraging is that
 
 
COLLINS LOTE AND SEA 1439 CAPABILITY ENHANCEMENTS
Venturaapdr Partica Online - 6 October 2021
The decision that Australia will acquire nuclear submarines has enormous ramifications, the consequences of which are only now being worked ...
so abruptly. The earliest that an Australian designed and built nuclear submarine could enter service would be around 2040. There has been
 
 
Repeal the nuclear ban and let’s power ahead
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 6 October 2021
Australias decision to partner with the US and Britain in building nuclear-powered submarines shines a light on contradictions that bedevil Australias policy on the civil use of nuclear power.
Australias decision to partner with the US and Britain in building nuclear-powered submarines shines a light on contradictions that bedevil Australias policy on the civil use of nuclear power.
 
 
A DECISION OF ENORMOUS CONSEQUENCES TAKEN WITH LITTLE ANALYSIS
Venturaapdr Partica Online - 5 October 2021
The more that is known about the circumstances leading up to the September 16 announcement that Australia will acquire nuclear powered ...
leading up to the September 16 announcement that Australia will acquire nuclear powered submarines the clearer it is that this was a high-
 
 
Australia’s nuclear submarine deal is going to ‘unravel’
Sky News Australia (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 5 October 2021
The Australian’s Foreign Editor Greg Sheridan says the nuclear-powered submarine deal Australia has with the United Kingdom and America is ...
you’d have to have involved with stuff certified for use in a nuclear submarine. “But we’ll persist with this fiction because no government
 
 
US ‘won’t share nuclear subs’: expert
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 5 October 2021
Australia is far more likely to buy a version of Britains Astute submarine than the US Virginia-class under the AUKUS defence partnership, a top US expert on nuclear subs says.
Australia is far more likely to buy a version of Britains Astute submarine than the US Virginia-class under the AUKUS defence partnership, a top US expert on nuclear subs says.
 
 
Will all submarines, even nuclear ones, be obsolete and ‘visible’ by 2040?
MSN - Australia - 5 October 2021
Australia’s proposed nuclear-powered submarines could be obsolete by the time they hit the water in the 2040s due to new technologies ...
evolving technologies. Mark Sander, the president of the Submarine Institute of Australia, said the boats will have critical capabilities in
 
 
Will AUKUS undercut Australia’s sovereignty?
Defence Connect - 5 October 2021
Could Australia’s nuclear submarine deal with the United States and the United Kingdom scupper efforts to bolster the nation’s sovereign ...
momentous decision to acquire nuclear submarines is a sign of confidence in the alliance, increases the potency of our submarine fleet and
 
 
Newspoll: Civil nuke industry gains voter traction
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 4 October 2021
Almost two-thirds of voters now either support a civil nuclear industry or agree that it should at least be considered as part of Australias future energy mix.
Almost two-thirds of voters now either support a civil nuclear industry or agree that it should at least be considered as part of Australias future energy mix.
 
 
Canada’s submarines play a critical role in our defense capability — and they’re getting old
The Peterborough Examiner - 4 October 2021
 
will dilute the importance of owning and operating submarines. The decision on a future submarine capability will not be easy or cheap.
 
 
Fast-track plea for nuclear subs may sink in shipbuilding morass­ | The Australian
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 4 October 2021
Fast-tracking Australia’s nuclear submarine plan by obtaining new or used boats from the US would require President Joe Biden to sacrifice scarce shipbuilding ­capacity as he pushes to expand the US naval fleet.
Fast-tracking Australia’s nuclear submarine plan by obtaining new or used boats from the US would require President Joe Biden to sacrifice scarce shipbuilding ­capacity as he pushes to expand the US naval fleet.
 
 
Defence policy ‘has to come first’, says former deputy PM | The Australian
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 4 October 2021
Former deputy prime minister John Anderson says defence policy “has to come first’, as he advocates for buying or leasing nuclear submarines from the UK and US before building them in Australia. “I think we need to clearly establish as well, that there ...
Former deputy prime minister John Anderson says defence policy “has to come first’, as he advocates for buying or leasing nuclear submarines from the UK and US before building them in Australia. “I think we need to clearly establish as well, that there
 
 
London inquest seeks to solve mystery sinking of French trawler
The Chronicle (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 4 October 2021
The coroner's inquest at the High Court in London will hear evidence from submarine commanders in the area at the ...
judge will hear around 40 witness statements from seamen, rescuers, maritime experts, submarine commanders and the victims' families. The
 

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Tuning in to new technology

By Lieutenant Geoff Long

8 October 2021

 
Able Seaman Nathan Mayfield uses a Harris PRC-150 HF radio set.
Able Seaman Nathan Mayfield uses a Harris PRC-150 HF radio set.

A junior sailor serving in the submarine HMAS Sheean has developed a more reliable method of delivering radio communications that could bring major benefits to the fleet for years to come.

Able Seaman Nathan Mayfield took a fresh look at the current fleet-wide high frequency (HF) radio procedures used by the crews of ships to communicate with each other and realised they were not being used to their full potential. 

Able Seaman Mayfield’s ideas revolved around a radio technology called 3G ALE (Third Generation Automatic Link Establishment), which provides more robust HF communications that could potentially be used when regular satellite communication links are down. 

“My light-bulb moment came when I was reading through equipment manuals to better understand the new submarine communications' centre,” Able Seaman Mayfield said. 

“Having read about the capabilities of the equipment suite on board and following discussions with 152 Signals Squadron and Leading Seaman Aaron Hill from Australian Clearance Diving Team Four, I realised that this existing non-utilised capability could be integrated into fleet procedures.” 

Sheean’s weapons electrical maintenance supervisor, Petty Officer Sara Clarke, said the recently introduced Fleet Optimisation Program provided a channel for Able Seaman Mayfield to submit his proposal.

Fleet Commander Rear Admiral Mark Hammond introduced the Fleet Optimisation Program in March this year. 

Its aim is to attract new ideas that improve the availability, sustainability and lethality of the fleet, as well as develop measurable improvements in Navy capability. 

“The Fleet Optimisation Program is a great initiative and inspired Able Seaman Mayfield to make a more detailed proposal that could test his ideas,” Petty Officer Clarke said. 

Sheean’s communications and information systems’ team has proven the 3G ALE concept alongside, and is looking to test the procedures at sea.  

Sheean’s signals and communications officer, Lieutenant Lachlan Darrow, said Able Seaman Mayfield’s proposal addressed a capability gap and could have benefits across a range of platforms. 

“This capability can be used to replace current HF procedures or become the primary method of HF communications with current procedures as a backup,” Lieutenant Darrow said. 

“It can be used in task group workings, fleet HF broadcasts, as a platform-specific communication circuit and during periods where conventional HF communications may not be possible.” 

It isn’t the first time Able Seaman Mayfield has turned his mind to innovation. 

In 2019, he was awarded a Chief of Navy Excellence Award for his work on the 3D design, testing and manufacture of an electrical interlock device that provided electrical safety for the Collins-class submarine fleet. 




With our Remembrance Day issue coming up in two weeks, our Historian Peter Smith has forwarded a truck load of information and his submission, is to wet your appetite for next fortnight. It his column, and has carte blanch. ENJOY
 
CONVERTED EX-WARSHIP SUBMARINE DEPOT SHIPS compiled by Peter Smith
    The early submarines with their short radius of action were primarily regarded as coastal defence craft. Operated from suitable bases, the boats were given the duty of guarding certain lengths of coast and also taking the place of mines. In addition, these rudimentary submarines were intended to attack enemy surface ships when nearing the coast with the purpose of bombardment.
    This policy of the pre-World War One and World War One periods resulted in stationing submarines in many non-naval ports, which again required the provision of an increased number of submarine depot ships. The number of specially designed vessels of this kind was far too small to meet requirements. Therefore, old and no longer effective warships - especially cruisers - were taken in hand for limited conversions for this service. Since only small transformations were effected in these vessels, their workshop and other facilities remained rather insignificant – with the possible exception of HMS Vulcan, which already had been built as a torpedo depot ship.           
    After the end of World War 1, the remaining coastal submarines as well as their depot ships were retired from service and scrapped – again with the exception of Vulcan, which survived until 1955, although finally in a different function.
    One additional ex-warship submarine depot ship served British submarines during World War Two, the ex-monitor M.29 of World War I vintage, which under the name of Talbot (later Medway II) was employed as a mini depot ship in Malta.
Additional Ships’ Notes:   
    ANTELOPE:  A former torpedo gunboat built in 1893, with no armament, was put into service as a submarine depot at Portsmouth from 1910; 1914 was placed on the sale list, however during the war she was used for training at Devonport. The ship was sold to T.R. Sales in May 1919 to be broken up.
    Above HMS Arrogant.
ARROGANT: An ex-Protected Cruiser launched in 1896, was converted to submarine depot in 1911 with no armament. Her war service from 1914 -16 was at Dover for the 4th and 5th Submarine Flotillas, from 1915-18 was used as a base flagship. She was sold in October 1923 to Hughes Bolckow in Blyth for scrap.
    BONAVENTURE (1): An ex-Protected Cruiser launched in December 1892, was converted as a depot ship in 1907. During the First World War she was armed with 2-6in/40QF; 2-6pdr QF; in 1917, 4 -3pdr QF were added. Her war service from 1914 -16 was as a depot ship for C-class boats in the 6th Submarine Flotilla on the Humber, later on the Tyne: From 1916 -18 while still at Tyne she served the 2nd Submarine Flotilla. The ship was sold to the Forth Ship Building Co in April 1920 and arrived at Borrowstounness, Scotland in October 1920 to be broken up.         
    CRESCENT: An ex-Protected Cruiser launched in March 1892, was converted to a submarine depot in 1916, armed with 4 -6in/40 QF and for the next two years served the Grand Fleet submarines in the Rosyth area. In September 1921 was sold to G. Cohen, to be broken up in Germany.
    DOLPHIN (1): An ex-Composite Sailing Sloop of 925 tons and launched on 9 December 1882. In 1907 the ship was converted as a stationary depot for submarines at Portsmouth, (the engines had been taken out in 1899) serving as Flagship for Commodore Commanding Submarines. She was sold in 1925. Her last use was as an accommodation school ship, first with a Boy’s Club (1928-1944) and then with the Leith Nautical College (1944-1965). From 1965, after many years rotting at Leith she was eventually towed to Borrowstounness in 1977 to be broken up.
    DOLPHIN (111): Was a former tender ABERFOYLE of 210 tons which was purchased in November 1920 and renamed HMS DOLPHIN in March 1938 (there are doubts that the new name was ever painted over the original name.). She was sold for disposal in 1947.  
    FORTH (1): An ex-Protected Cruiser launched in October 1889 was converted to a submarine depot over the period of 1904-05 with armament of 4 - 6pdr QF. Her war service consisted as a depot in 1914 at Devonport; 1914 -16 in the Humber and 1916 -18 at Harwich. The ship was sold in November 1921 to Slough TC, to be broken up in Germany.
    HAZARD: ex-Torpedo Gunboat launched in February 1894 and was converted to a depot ship in 1901, with armament consisting of 2 - 4.7in/40 QF and 4 - 6pdr QF. On 2 February 1912 she collided with and sunk one of her charges - HMS A.3 off Bembridge. Her war service was depot ship at Dover from 1914 – 18; She sank off Portland Bill after a collision with the fast ambulance transport SS WESTERN AUSTRALIA which cut her in half on 28 January 1918.  
 
HMAT Western Australia as a troop transport before conversion to a hospital ship.
HEBE: An ex-Torpedo Gunboat launched in June 1892 and armed with 2 - 4.7in/40 QF; 4 - 3pdr QF, she was converted to submarine depot in 1909. Her war service was with the 6th Submarine Flotilla of C-class boats from 1914 -16 in the Humber, later in the Tyne. From 1916 - 17 with the 1st Submarine Flotilla of ‘B’ and ‘C’ class boats at Leith and then 1917-18 with the 3rd Flotilla of C-class boats in the Humber. The ship was sold in October 1919 to Ward, Preston.                
    MERCURY: An ex-Despatch Vessel launched in 1878 as a result of an early attempt to construct a fast cruiser was converted in 1906 for use as a depot. The Harbour hulk, unarmed, saw war service at Rosyth from 1914 -18. She was sold in July 1919 to Forth Ship Building Co, Borrowstounness to be broken up.  
    ONYX: An ex-Torpedo Gunboat launched in September 1892 and converted to a submarine depot ship in 1908 with no armament. Her war service was in support of the 1st Submarine Flotilla of old A-class boats at Devonport 1914 -16 and later as a base ship at Torbay 1917-18. In June 1919 she was renamed VULCAN (ii) and sold in 1924 to King, Garston and resold in October 1924 to L. Basso, Weymouth.  
    PACTOLUS: An ex-Protected Cruiser launched in December 1896 was converted to a submarine depot in 1912 with no armament. She served the 9th Flotilla of old ‘A’ and ‘B’ class boats at Ardrossan during 1914 -16 period. In October 1921 she was sold to the Multiocular Ship Building Co., Stranraer.  
        Above HMS Rosario.
ROSARIO: An ex-Steel Sloop launched in 1898 with armament of 4 -3pdr QF. The ship was a harbour hulk in Hong Kong when the three C-class submarines HMS C.36, C.37 and C.38 where sent out to the China Station in 1910, the ship readily became available for service as a submarine depot. Her war service consisted as depot ship at Hong Kong for the three C-class boats for the period of 1914 -18.  She was sold in Hong Kong in November 1921.
     ROYAL ARTHUR: The former ex-CENTAUR an ex-Protected Cruiser launched in February 1891. Her war service after being relegated to harbour duties in 1915 was as a depot ship for submarines at Rosyth until the end of the war. In August 1921 she was sold to G. Cohen to be broken up in Germany.
    ST. GEORGE: An ex-Protected Cruiser Launched in 1892 was converted in 1909 -10 as a depot ship with armament of 4 -6in/40 QF and 8 - 12pdr QF.  After employment as depot ship for destroyers she became a depot ship for submarines in the Mediterranean from 1915 until 1918. The ship was sold in July 1920 to S. Castle, Plymouth.
    SHARPSHOOTER: An ex-Torpedo Gunboat launched in November 1888 was converted in 1909 with armament of 4 - 4pdr QF and 4 -3pdr QF. From 1909 until 1912 she was attached to the Home Fleet as a submarine tender. From later in 1912 she was renamed NORTHAMPTON and used as a training ship. The ship was sold in March 1922 to be broken up on the Medway.
   Above HMS Shearwater.
SHEARWATER: A steel sloop of 980 tons was launched on 10 February 1900, with armament of 4 – 4pdr QF and 4 – 3pdr QF. For its war service in 1914 -15 the ship was stationed at Esquimalt, Canada. In 1915 she was lent to the Royal Canadian Navy to serve as a tender to the newly acquired submarines HMCS CC.1 and CC.2. The ship was put in reserve in June 1919 and sold to the Western Shipping Co. Canada in May 1922 and renamed Vedas, she was stricken from the register in 1937.
   TALBOT: An ex-Coaster Monitor launched in 1915 was the only ex-warship submarine depot ship serving British World War Two submarines. Built as the 9.2in gun-monitor HMS M.29 during World War One and converted to a coastal minesweeper and disarmed and renamed MEDUSSA in December 1925. She was named TALBOT in September 1941 and served as depot ship for the newly formed 10th Submarine Flotilla at Malta (with workshops ashore). The ship was damaged by Luftwaffe bombing in March 1942. The ship was renamed MEDWAY II in February 1944 and continued her service as a mini depot ship for the 1st Submarine Flotilla. The ship was sold in September 1946.
    THAMES: An ex-Protected Cruiser was launched in December 1885 and converted over the period of 1902-03 with armament of 4 -6pdr QF. It saw war service from 1914 as a depot ship for the 5th Submarine Flotilla of C-class boats at Harwich. Later in 1914 she served as a submarine depot at Sheerness and then later in the same capacity at Portsmouth and Campbelltown. The ship was sold in November 1920 and renamed GENERAL BOTHA and used as a training ship at The Cape, South Africa. The name was reverted back to THAMES in 1942 and used as an accommodation ship. She was scuttled on 13 May 1947 in Simons Bay.        
    VENUS: An ex-Protected Cruiser launched in 1895 with armament of 11-6in/45 BL; 8-12pdr QF and 1-3pdr QF. The ship saw service in 1912 until 1914 in the Home Fleet and served temporarily as a depot ship for submarines. She was sold for scrap in September 1921 to G. Cohen and broken up in Germany.
    VULCAN: An ex-Torpedo Depot Ship launched in March 1889 and converted to a submarine depot ship over 1907-08, was armed in 1915 with 8-6pdr QF and 4 -3pdr QF. The ship was commissioned on 5 January 1909 as a submarine depot, serving in this capacity in Home waters until 1930. Her war service was as depot to the 7th Submarine Flotilla at Leith (C-class boats) from 1914 -16, and then the rest of the war serving submarines on the Humber, at Berehaven and Blyth. On 17 February 1931 she was renamed DEFIANCE III and used as a torpedo school ship. The ship had a particularly long life afloat and was taken out of service after 66 years and in December 1955 she arrived in Belgium to be broken up.    
CONVERTED EX-MERCANTILE SUBMARINE DEPOT SHIPS
    The urgent need for additional Submarine Depot Ships during both World Wars and before was partly satisfied by converting a number of mercantile hulls. This means had already been resorted to for the provision of the first Royal Navy depot ship: this was HECLA of the late 1870s (she served as parent ship for torpedo boats), which had originally been laid down as the mercantile BRITISH CROWN.
    For the purpose of repair and maintenance of submarines rather less well equipped than most purpose-built depot ships, the converted ex-mercantile vessels became popular at least as accommodation ships for the Senior Officer and his staff as well as for the displacement, which in addition allowed for ample storage space for torpedoes, ammunition and supplies.    
ADDITION SHIP’S NOTES
World War One Period Depot Ships
    AMBROSE: Originally hired and commissioned on 10 December 1914 as an armed merchant cruiser of 6,600 tons, was purchased in 1915 for conversion into a submarine depot, armed with 2 – 12pdr/40 QF. The ship served as a depot from 1917/18 at Berehaven and 1918 serving submarines at Falmouth. The ship survived into the World War Two period, in 1938 she was renamed COCHRANE and used as a base ship, her second war service was as harbour depot for submarines. The ship was sold in August 1946 for scrap and was taken to Ward, Inverkeithing in November 1946 to be broken up.
    AQUARIUS: Built in 1900 as mercantile HAMPSTEAD of 3,660 tons, was acquired in 1902 for the Fleet Train (Royal Fleet Auxiliary) for service as store and distilling ship. In 1906 the ship was transferred to the Royal Navy and renamed AQUARIUS and equipped as a repair and distilling ship with no armament. She served in the Mediterranean with submarines from 1915. The ship was sold in 1920.
    CYCLOPS: Originally the former mercantile INDRANARAH of 11,300 tons was purchased on the stocks in 1905. She served with the Grand Fleet as a floating workshop and distilling ship during the First World War. It was not until after the war that the she was fitted for service as a submarine depot ship, commissioning on 21 December 1922 as a depot for Atlantic Fleet submarines. Later she saw service in the Mediterranean until transferred to Dockyard Control at Malta on 24 June 1938. The ship was taken back under the control of the Royal Navy at the onset of World War Two and armed with 2 – 4in/40 QF.













She continued in service as a submarine depot ship during 1939 in the Mediterranean until transferring for the remainder of the war employed in Home waters. In 1947 the ship was taken out of service and she arrived at Cashmore, Newport in July 1947 to be broken up.           
   
LUCIA: Was the former German Hamburg – Amerika liner SPREEWALD of 5,805 tons, built by Furness Withy, West Hartlepool in 1907. The ship was captured and taken as a prize by the First Class cruiser HMS BERWICK off St. Lucia in the West Indies on 12 September 1914. The ship was fitted out by
Above HMS Lucia
Clyde S.B. Co. as a submarine depot in 1916 with armament of 2 – 3pdr HA. Her war service consisted as depot for the 10th Submarine Flotilla of ‘E’ and ‘G’ class boats at Tees. She survived to see service in World War Two, with no armament, in 1939 as a submarine depot in the East Indies and from 1942 to 1945 with the Eastern Fleet. On 4 September 1946 the ship was sold and renamed SINAI.
    PANDORA: Was the Russian mercantile SETI of 4,580 tons, which was purchased in 1914 and converted, without armament, into a depot ship for submarines at Harwich from 1915 to 1918. Renamed DOLPHIN (11) in 1924 and used as a depot ship at Fort Blockhouse replacing DOLPHIN (1), she survived until World War Two; however, she was mined on 23 November 1939 off Blyth while on passage for conversion into a block-ship.
    TITANIA: A ship of 5,270 tons was purchased on stocks in 1915 and completed as a submarine depot ship with no armament. From 1915 to 1918 she served the submarines at Blyth. The ship survived to see service in World War Two from 1939 to 1945 in Home Waters at first at Rothesay and then from 1942 in Loch Cairnbawn, serving as a depot ship for Chariot Human Torpedoes and Welman one-man submarines. After the war the ship was taken out of service and she arrived in September 1949 at Faslane to be broken up.
    HMAS UPOLU: A steamer of 1,141 tons, built in 1891, was hired to work as a depot for the RAN submarines HMAS AE.1 and AE2 in August 1914. On 9 December 1914 the ship was paid off and returned after AE.1 was lost off the Duke of York Island and the transfer of AE.2 to the Mediterranean.   
World War Two Period Depot Ships
    BONAVENTURE (11) Formerly the mercantile ex-CLAN DAVIDSON of 9,166 tons was a Clan Line cargo vessel under construction when requisitioned on 27 October 1942 for conversion by Scotts into a depot ship for X-craft. She was armed with 2 – 4in/45 HA; 12 – 20 mm HA. Her war service from 1942-44 was as a depot ship in Loch Cairnbawn and in February 1945 left Clyde for the far east with six XE-craft of the 14th Flotilla carried on deck. The ship was sold in 1948 and eventually broken up in Hong Kong in 1962.  
    MONTCLARE: A passenger liner of 16,314 tons was hired from the Canadian Pacific Steamships in 1939 and used as an armed merchant cruiser. On 2 June 1942 the ship was purchased outright and converted to a depot ship for submarines. Her armament consisted of 4 - 4in/45 HA; 32 – 2pdr HA and 19-20mm HA. The ship saw service with the Pacific Fleet as Fleet Train headquarters ship 1944 - 45. The ship was disposed of in 1957; she arrived at Ward, Inverkeithing on 3 February 1958 to be broken up. 
        WOLFE: Formally the requisitioned Canadian Pacific Steamships’ MONTCALM of 16,420 gross tons was hired as an armed merchant cruiser and commissioned as WOLFE on 21 November 1939. In May 1942 the ship was purchased outright and converted into a submarine depot ship, with armament of 4 - 4in/45 HA; 32 – 2pdr HA and 19 - 20mm HA. She was used as a depot with the 3rd Submarine Flotilla in the Clyde, 1942 - 44; from August 1944 with the East Indies Fleet at Trincomalee, serving the 2nd Submarine Flotilla of six S-class boats, plus Porpoise, Severn and Clyde. The ship arrived at Faslane on 8 November 1952 to be broken up.
    HMAS WHANG PU: A shallow river steamer built in Hong Kong in 1920, the ship of 3,204 tons was originally requisitioned in December 1941 by the Royal Navy and was being converted to a submarine depot in Singapore when advancing Japanese forces forced the ship to sail to Australia. The ship was commissioned into the RAN on 1 October 1943. She left Melbourne in early 1944 after conversion to a repair ship and was employed in New Guinea waters. Later she was used as a stores ship at Morotai. The ship was paid off and returned to the owners on 22 April 1946.  
    WUCHANG: A Hong Kong shallow draught steamer of 3,214 gross tons, like WHANG PU was requisitioned in 1941 and was being converted for submarine service in Singapore when it was forced to sail to Colombo. The ship was officially commissioned into the Royal Navy on 12 May 1942 and was used as a submarine depot and accommodation ship for submarine crews. With the arrival of LUCIA to Colombo from the Mediterranean, Commander R.M.G. Gambier RN acting Captain S/m moved his command to the ship and WUCHANG was used for the overflow. During 1943 the ship was sent to Trincomalee for a period but was recalled in June to return to Colombo when there was a build-up of submarines stationed there. Again in November of 1943 the ship returned to Trincomalee and was used as a depot and accommodation ship until 1945. In April 1946 the ship was handed back to its owners.
    The majority of the above information is from the “Encyclopaedia of British Submarines 1901-1955” by Paul Akermann with additional information from “Ships of the Royal Navy” Volume 1 and 2 by J.J. Colledge, “Lloyd’s Register of Shipping 1937-38” and from “Australian & New Zealand Warships 1914 -1945” by Ross Gillett. (Smudge).
    While researching the above story to put flesh on the bare bones of information contained in the addition ships’ notes in the Encyclopaedia of British Submarines, I came across one other submarine depot ship that our war time readers may have been involved with in the war in the Indian Ocean and that was the Dutch ship COLOMBIA. 
    In late December 1941 the Commander-in-Chief of the Eastern Fleet was informed that the Netherlands’ naval authorities in London had agreed to send out their submarine depot ship and three of their O-class submarines to augment the allied submarine capacity in the Far East. COLOMBIA the flagship of Koninklijke Nederlansche Stoomboot Maatchappij (Royal Dutch Line), of 11,000 tons, was completed in 1930 at Rotterdam as a passenger liner. After being fitted out in the United Kingdom for her new role, she arrived at Colombo on 4 March 1942 from Dundee via the Cape of Good Hope.  On board was Commander Gambier RN who was Commander S/m in an advisory capacity.  
    In May 1942 it was found that most of the Dutch submarines were in need of docking and repairs so COLOMBIA was sent with them to Bombay (Mumbai) to provide accommodation and assist with their refits.
    In August 1942, COLOMBIA was sent to South Africa and based at East London to act as a depot and staging point for the Dutch submarines on their way out from the United Kingdom to join the Eastern Fleet, and for those which were going to the United States for major refit.   
    In February 1943 the ship was recalled to Colombo having completed her role of assistance. By this time, she was in need of docking and it was arranged that she go to Simonstown for this purpose before sailing to Ceylon. As escorts were in short supply it was decided to sail her by day only, so that a continuous air escort could be provided for her. Only one escort of a corvette, HMS Genista could be provided for passage from East London to Port Elizabeth. When a sighting report of a U-boat was received from a training aircraft, a South African minesweeper trawler and an extra aircraft were sent out to search. This aircraft was over the top of COLOMBIA when the ship was hit by a torpedo from U-516 commanded by Korvettenkapitan zur See Gerhard Wiebe about 1130 on 27 February 1943. COLOMBIA sank in thirteen minutes with the loss of eight of her ship’s company. Genista’s cursory counterattack did no damage to U-516.           
    Wiebe identified and reported his target as COLOMBIA; however, the importance of his target was not appreciated by the German U-boat command. (Smudge).
    In an aside to the Canadian Pacific Steamships’ MONTCALM and MONTCLARE, both ships of the Mont-class were built by J Brown Co. Ltd in Glasgow, the first was competed in 1921 and the latter in 1922, both ships had twin screws each and were built with cruiser sterns. It is interesting to note that although the ships were Canadian owned they were registered in Liverpool, England.  
   In reference to LUCIA, the original ship’s bell with the name SPREEWALD was used throughout her Royal Navy service.
   On 5 April 1942 LUCIA was one of a group of 30 ships that had not evacuated Colombo prior to the Japanese fleet air arm attack on the port. The ship sustained a single bomb hit which did not explode, however it passed straight through forward, exiting through the hull. Her Engineer Officer stated that the bomb’s path was traced with the unerring accuracy usually associated with expert surgery, right through the line he would have selected to cause minimum damage.  However, when the air raid had started HMS/m Trusty was alongside and was about to load torpedoes prior to going out on patrol, some of Trusty’s crew were on the ship at the time and were trapped by a watertight door that had become jammed; they had to squeeze out through a scuttle and swim to the submarine.        
   In an aside to HMS Shearwater, she was one of two British war ships based on the Canada Station at Esquimalt on the southern tip of Vancouver Island, British Columbia. The two C-class submarines were built to specification and drawings supplied by the Electric Boat Company of New Jersey at the Seattle Construction and Drydock Company. Built originally for the Chilean Navy and named IQUIQUE and ANTOFAGASTA they were acquired on 7 August 1914 when the Chilean Government reneged on the deal. It was after the acquisition of the Canada’s first submarines that SHEARWATER was commissioned into the Canadian Navy and used as a submarine depot ship. There was a lot of urgency to get the deal and flotilla set up as World War One had just begun and the Allies were chasing the German Asiatic Fleet in the Pacific. (Smudge)       
    In reference to WHANG PU and WUCHANG both ships were built by the Taikoo Dockyard and Engineering Co. of Hong Kong Ltd., Hong Kong and were owned by the China Navigation Co. Ltd. The ships with twin screws each were an ugly, but functional two deck ferry/cargo mercantile that plied the rivers and coast of China. It is interesting to note that the ship’s port of register was London and that they flew the British flags.
    While describing the civilian ships that were either requisitioned or purchased, I have continued with the rules of Lloyd’s Register which state, that the date of built is the date the ship is launched.
HMS Hazard sank off Portland Bill after a collision with the fast ambulance transport HMAHS Western Australia which cut her in half on 28 January 1918.   
 
To save or not to save, that is the question. The answer is to compromise, learn to take the good with the bad and hope that the best balances out with the worst.
One Crisp Winter morning in Sweden...
 The Gal that loves to fly. 
One crisp winter morning in Sweden, a cute little girl named Greta woke up to a perfect world, one where there were no petroleum products ruining the earth. She tossed aside her cotton sheet and wool blanket and stepped out onto a dirt floor covered with willow bark that had been pulverized with rocks. "What's this?" she asked.

"Pulverized willow bark," replied her fairy godmother.

"What happened to the carpet?" she asked.

"The carpet was nylon, which is made from butadiene and hydrogen cyanide, both made from petroleum," came the response.

Greta smiled, acknowledging that adjustments are necessary to save the planet, and moved to the sink to brush her teeth where instead of a toothbrush, she found a willow, mangled on one end to expose wood fibre bristles.

"Your old toothbrush?" noted her godmother, "Also nylon."

"Where's the water?" asked Greta.

"Down the road in the canal," replied her godmother, 'Just make sure you avoid water with cholera in it"

"Why's there no running water?" Greta asked, becoming a little peevish.

"Well," said her godmother, who happened to teach engineering at MIT, "Where do we begin?" There followed a long monologue about how sink valves need elastomer seats and how copper pipes contain copper, which has to be mined and how it's impossible to make all-electric earth-moving equipment with no gear lubrication or tires and how ore has to be smelted to a make metal, and that's tough to do with only electricity as a source of heat, and even if you use only electricity, the wires need insulation, which is petroleum-based, and though most of Sweden's energy is produced in an environmentally friendly way because of hydro and nuclear, if you do a mass and energy balance around the whole system, you still need lots of petroleum products like lubricants and nylon and rubber for tires and asphalt for filling potholes and wax and iPhone plastic and elastic to hold your underwear up while operating a copper smelting furnace and . . .

"What's for breakfast?" interjected Greta, whose head was hurting.

"Fresh, range-fed chicken eggs," replied her godmother. "Raw."

"How so, raw?" inquired Greta.

"Well . . .” And once again, Greta was told about the need for petroleum products like transformer oil and scores of petroleum products essential for producing metals for frying pans and in the end was educated about how you can't have a petroleum-free world and then cook eggs. Unless you rip your front fence up and start a fire and carefully cook your egg in an orange peel like you do in Boy Scouts. Not that you can find oranges in Sweden anymore.

"But I want poached eggs like my Aunt Tilda makes," lamented Greta.

"Tilda died this morning," the godmother explained. "Bacterial pneumonia."

"What?!" interjected Greta. "No one dies of bacterial pneumonia! We have penicillin."

"Not anymore," explained godmother "The production of penicillin requires chemical extraction using isobutyl acetate, which, if you know your organic chemistry, is petroleum-based. Lots of people are dying, which is problematic because there's not any easy way of disposing of the bodies since backhoes need hydraulic oil and crematoriums can't really burn many bodies. They're using fuel like burning Swedish fences and furniture, which are rapidly disappearing - being used on the black market for roasting eggs and staying warm."

This represents only a fraction of Greta's day, a day without microphones to exclaim into and a day without much food, and a day without carbon-fibre boats to sail in, but a day that will save the planet.

Tune in next fortnight, when Greta needs a root canal and learns how Novocain is synthesized.
 Antique Tool Still In Use.  
 
                              Do you know what it is?
 
 
 tobacco-smoke-enema-kit-by-wellcome-imag
 
Tobacco Smoke Enema Kit  (1750s - 1810s).        
The tobacco enema was used to infuse tobacco smoke into a patient's rectum for various medical purposes, but primarily the resuscitation of drowning victims. 
A rectal tube inserted into the anus was connected to a fumigator and bellows that forced the smoke into the rectum.
The warmth of the smoke was thought to promote respiration. (huh) 
Doubts about the credibility of tobacco enemas led to the popular phrase "blowing smoke up your arse." 
This odd tool is still heavily used by all Australian governments.
Moving on,
 
     
                             
 
THE UMBRELLA - A TOUCHING STORY FROM CANADA 
 
On a rainy afternoon in Edmonton Canada recently, a group of protesters were gathered outside a hospital handing out pamphlets on the  “evils”  of  vaccines and vaccine passports. They said it violated their rights.
 
I politely declined to take one as I entered the hospital.     
 
 There was an elderly woman behind me and a young (20-ish)  female protester who offered her a pamphlet, which she too politely declined.      
 
The young protester gently put her hand on the old woman's shoulder and in a patronising voice said, "Don't you care about freedoms and rights" ?  
 
The old woman looked up at her and said: "Honey, my father died in France during World War II protecting our rights and freedoms. I lost my husband to Covid, traced back to being introduced by an illegal immigrant, and now my daughter has it " .
 
So how can a naive, privileged, ignorant, self-centred bimbo like you have the right to stand here, talk about rights and freedoms, badmouth our health-care workers, protest in front of taxpayer funded hospitals where the health-care system is overwhelmed by this pandemic, and your claims they do not care about our health and safety ?
 
“So, I warn you - If you touch me again,  I'll shove this umbrella right up your arse and open it, and then you really will see the light of reason!"
 
 

DVA MATTERS

 
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For the next grot.
 
Widow’s pension.
 
Who is entitled to the War Widow’s Pension
All partners of Veterans that pass away from accepted conditions, also those that are TPI, Extreme. Disablement Adjustment (EDA) and Intermediate Rate (IR). When the veteran dies if they are TPI, EDA and IR then the widow automatically get the War Widows Pension once DVA have been notified. If he haas the condition accepted a claim for War Widow’s Pension needs to be made, if the condition is not accepted a claim for the condition has to be made on the veterans behalf.
 
What are the Benefits of the War Widows Pension
 
Under VEA
 
  1. War Widows Pension about $950 per fortnight
  2. Gold Card
  3. Lump sum of about $66000
  4. Up to $3000 for funeral expenses
 
Under DRCA
 
  1. Lump sum of about $560000
  2. Lump sum of about $66000
  3. Gold Card
  4. Up to $12000 for funeral expenses
  5. Up to $2000 for financial advice
 
As you can see there is a huge difference between the acts. 
 
I would suggest that if you develop a condition that at some stage may kill you then you attempt to get it accepted under both DVA and VEA, then if you end up returning you're bedding your partner may be way better off taking the DRCA payout. 
 
 
Regards
Ray Kemp OAM JP
Level 3 ATDP Advocate
+61419829299
AUTHORS NOTE: After speaking to Ray, in the first instance after receiving this information please contact your Local Advocate NOT RAY and then if there is a significant issue that cant be resolved then approach him.
 

Hi 6
For next log.
Hi All 
 
I was asked to lodge a claim with defence and com super for a change of discharge from DEE to Medical. The sailor was a member of Onslow’s crew when they had the engine run-on. As a result of the request he had his discharge changed to medical and subsequently was awarded a class A medical pension form ComSuper. The result was a backdated pension at 75% of his discharged pay for nearly 40 years. If you are an Onslow survivor then you should consider having your mode of discharge changed. It is a time consuming exercise and no one claim is the same, it depends on what DVA claims you have, how many years you did and were you receiving benefits from Centrelink. I’m happy to discuss this with anyone that thinks they have an entitlement.
Regards
Ray Kemp OAM JP

It doesn’t take ‘em long……..
 
 
 

 
Bagpipes
 
More good information from Jeff Stein and Buck Singh from Veterans Web and RSL’s.
 
Dear Members

The Minister for Veterans’ Affairs and Defence Personnel Andrew Gee has announced the appointment of independent consultants to overhaul the Department of Veterans’ Affairs’ claims processing system.

Consultants McKinsey & Company will work with families who have lost loved ones to suicide, to formulate recommendations that will overhaul the system to better serve our veterans.

Minister Gee said the backlog of claims is unacceptably high which is delaying veterans and their families access to vital services and funding.

“One of my top priorities is to improve the claims processing system and cut waiting times for veterans and their loved ones, and as such, I have directed that this rebuild takes place as a matter of urgency,” Minister Gee said.

“This is not another review.

“McKinsey will immediately examine how the Department can simplify the claims process, how it is currently processing claims, and identify how we can have a faster, more efficient and effective system for all veterans and their families.

“As part of this vitally important work, I have directed McKinsey to hold meetings with families of veterans who have suffered the tragic and devastating loss of a loved one, so that those rebuilding the system can gain a first-hand understanding of the impact of veteran suicide and the importance of a quick and efficient claims processing system.

“We can’t wait for the Royal Commission to get cracking on this crucial reform.

“In the recent Budget $98.5 million was delivered for hundreds of new claims processing officers for veterans which is welcome news. However, I don’t want to see these officers dropped into an inefficient system, tangling themselves up in red tape.

“If that budget boost is to have maximum effect we need to make sure that the fundamentals of the claims processing system are right.”

McKinsey will deliver its action plan in December 2021. Minister Gee has reiterated that he wants to see immediate progress so that veterans and their families can receive the support they deserve and require.

“McKinsey will be tackling the issue with an independent set of eyes to ensure that claims are processed in a timely manner. I won’t be waiting to action this roadmap,” Minister Gee said.

“McKinsey will provide recommendations with clear milestones and deliverables that can be tracked, measured and monitored by the Department of Veterans’ Affairs and the Australian Government at three, six, 12, 18 and 24-month intervals.

“The Australian Government is currently supporting more than 336,000 veterans and their families and we’re committed to ensuring they have the support they need, when and where they need it.

“Our veterans have served our nation with courage and distinction and we must give them the best possible care and support.  They deserve nothing less.”

If any veteran or their family member has information that will help this process, Minister Gee encourages them to get in touch by emailing office.ministergee@dva.gov.au.

If you need assistance with making a claim to the Department of Veterans' Affairs you can contact RSL DefenceCare to access free DVA claims and Veteran Review Board services, or contact your local sub-Branch to connect with a claims advocate.
Click here to see what's happening on the RSL NSW website.
 

Subject: FW: What the US left behind for the Taliban
 Very hard to believe these numbers but.... ?
 Here is a more complete list of US-supplied and left behind equipment list now controlled by Taliban:
  • 2,000 Armored Vehicles Including Humvees and MRAP’s
  • 75,989 Total Vehicles: FMTV, M35, Ford Rangers, Ford F350, Ford Vans, Toyota Pickups, Armored Security Vehicles etc
  • 45 UH-60 Blackhawk Helicopters
  • 50 MD530G Scout Attack Choppers
  • ScanEagle Military Drones
  • 30 Military Version Cessnas
  • 4 C-130’s
  • 29 Brazilian made A-29 Super Tocano Ground Attack Aircraft 
=208+ Aircraft Total!!
  • At least 600,000+ Small arms M16, M249 SAWs, M24 Sniper Systems, 50 Calibers, 1,394 M203 Grenade Launchers, M134 Mini Gun, 20mm Gatling Guns and Ammunition
  • 61,000 M203 Rounds
  • 20,040 Grenades
  • Howitzers
  • Mortars +1,000’s of Rounds
  • 162,000 pieces of Encrypted Military Communications Gear
  • 16,000+ Night Vision Goggles
  • Newest Technology Night Vision Scopes
  • Thermal Scopes and Thermal Mono Googles
  • 10,000 2.75 inch Air to Ground Rockets
  • Reconnaissance Equipment (ISR)
  • Laser Aiming Units
  • Explosives Ordnance C-4, Semtex, Detonators, Shaped Charges, Thermite, Incendiaries, AP/API/APIT
  • 2,520 Bombs
  • Administration Encrypted Cell Phones and Laptops ALL operational
  • Pallets with Millions of Dollars in US Currency
  • Millions of Rounds of Ammunition including but not limited to 20,150,600 rounds of 7.62mm, 9,000,000 rounds of 50.caliber
  • Large Stockpile of Plate Carriers and Body Armor
  • US Military HIIDE, for Handheld Interagency Identity Detection Equipment Biometrics
  • Lots of Heavy Equipment Including Bull Dozers, Backhoes, Dump Trucks, Excavators

 

And now for something completely different and my favourite of the fortnight is the celebration of William Shatner returning to his home port and back and coincides with the latest developments in Victoria:
Before we forget the daily
'Covid according to Gladys Press Conferences'
here is her best ever.


PROJECT TOUCHSTONE


Not too much to report but the wheels are turning and a plan has been developed. Great news form our SAA and fully supported and a letter forwarded to the Stakeholders through RADM Peter Briggs. The Royal Navy Submarine Community (by all reports) are supportive of it as well and hopefully a letter/email from the powers that be will be forthcoming.





Mike Bennett has provided the following that many may not be aware of where, AE1 And AE2 were built in Barrow in Furness and the Memorial that has been erected in the Town. A good read but 30 odd pages and contained at this link.
 
Do you drink Beer?

IN MEMORIUM

 

RIP TOM DRIVER

An all Ship All Shore has been promulgated but after speaking to Bishop Keith Dalby, he has requested the following for Tom:
 

THE SUBMARINER’S PRAYER


O Father, Hear our prayer to thee
For your humble servants
Beneath the sea

In the depths of oceans, as oft they stray
So far from night, so far from day
We would ask your guiding light to glow
To make their journey safe below

Please oft times grant them patient mind
Then ‘ere the darkness won’t them blind
They seek thy protection from the deep
Please grant them peace when ‘ere they sleep

Of their homes and loved ones far away
We ask you care for them each day
Until they surface once again
To drink the air and feel the rain

We ask your guiding hand to show
A safe progression sure and slow.
Dear Lord, please hear our prayer to thee,
For your humble servants
Beneath the sea.


Amen

RIP Tom



 

Ex HMAS OTAMA




We were fortunate enough to make contact Parks Victoria and they were kind enough to forward a Memo outlining the plan with the old girl.

 


Quotes attributable to Parks Victoria

 

“The Association has failed to comply with three previous notices to move the deteriorating Otama, so we have been left with no other option but to begin the process to remove it from Western Port entirely.”

 

“This is a necessary step to remove further risk to the environment and the community and is the only realistic option moving forward.”

 

“We acknowledge the Association’s vision for the Otama but, unfortunately, there has been no substantial progress since the group took ownership of the vessel over 20 years ago.”

 

Background:

 

On 4 September 2021, Parks Victoria worked with Port of Hastings Development Authority and Ports Victoria to move the vessel from its previous location to a shallower mooring offshore from Crib Point, still within local port waters managed by Parks Victoria, to minimise the risk of sinking in deep water.

 

The owner has failed to comply with three previous Direction to Move notices issued by Parks Victoria under the Port Management Act 1995 over the last three months. The most recent expired on 2 October 2021.

 

The Victorian Government through port managers, Parks Victoria, Port of Hastings Development Authority and Ports Victoria, has been monitoring the condition of the ex-HMAS Otama (the Otama) for some time.

 

The vessel is owned by the Westernport Oberon Association Inc (the Association) who has been informed over a long period of time that the Otama is not safe through a lack of maintenance.

 

The Otama began to list in February 2021, and the Association was notified and took no action.

 

The Otama’s list increased significantly following overnight storms on 10 and 11 June 2021. Immediate action was taken by the port managers to stabilise the listing vessel at its location in Western Port to minimise the risk of it sinking. This included temporarily sealing hatches and holes, attaching buoyancy and counterweights, and pumping out water. A 200 metre exclusion zone was established around the vessel for the safety of other boaters.

 

On 30 June 2021, the Otama was returned to a vertical position and maintained by intermittent pumping and ongoing monitoring.

 

The Victorian Government has done a great deal over the last few years including funding replacement mooring tackle, and the recent stabilisation and relocation efforts.  It is not sustainable to continue to redirect public funds from other priorities to prolong the life of a highly deteriorated retired military asset that remains a real risk to maritime navigation and to the sensitive marine values of the Western Port Ramsar site.

 

In accordance with Division 4 of the Port Management Act 1995, Parks Victoria has notified the vessel owner of its intentions to commence a process to remove the Otama from Western Port by way of sale, gift or disposal. 




Personally, I find it ironic, that our two premier vessels that were geared up and utilised in respective high profile missions are the ones that have fallen foul and the memories of their distinguished service will not be commemorated anywhere.


 
These are not new but, ah! What the hell………
 
When Insults Had Class...
 
Glorious insults from an era “ before” the English language got boiled down to 4-letter words eg. 'work'
 
A member of Parliament to Disraeli: 
"Sir, you will either die on the gallows or of some unspeakable disease.”
"That depends, Sir, " said Disraeli, "whether I embrace your policies or your mistress."
 
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."
- Winston Churchill
 
"Thank you for sending me a copy of your book; I'll waste no time reading it."
-Moses Hadas
 
"He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends."
-Oscar Wilde
 
"I am enclosing two tickets to the first night of my new play; bring a friend, if you have one."
-George Bernard Shaw to Winston Churchill
 
"Cannot possibly attend first night, will attend second... if there is one."
-Winston Churchill, in response
 
"He is simply a shiver looking for a spine to run up."
- Paul Keating
 
"In order to avoid being called a flirt, she always yielded easily."
-Charles, Count Talleyrand
 
"He loves nature in spite of what it did to him."
-Forrest Tucker
 
"His mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork."
-Mae West
 
"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go."
-Oscar Wilde
 
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination."
-Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
 
"He has Van Gogh's ear for music."
-Billy Wilder
 
"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But I'm afraid this wasn't it."
-Groucho Marx
 

SICK PARADE

Ian Prodger is by no stretch out of the woods and cannot take call without straining his voice. He will acknowledge emails when he can but still ongoing treatment.
Bob O’Grady pretty much the same but is posting his status on the Facebook page.
Our Webmaster Tim Bass is a walking disaster area with a reoccurring arm injury and now a sprained ankle. Will someone please send him a band aid.
Our round mound of Sound Thommo in Tassie is on the mend and back home with Famil and Friends. His Medical Condition remains extant but encouraging news
Ray Kemp is hanging in there with his leg and he normally reports his status via Facebook and the tough bugger still is full on with DVA,TPI and other issues.
Our President Bob we have nil report but based on last fortnights edition, is getting there.
Pretty sure that there are many more within our Community that are doing it tough but many tend to keep their issues to themselves which in turn negates our ability to inform you as such.

And for our State Welfare Officers, I don’t mind doing a fortnightly ring around but how about sharing the information you have at hand Nationally to the Author and Editor of the Grot and Up Periscope. You Nominated for your respective positions how about following through with your obligation.

AROUND THE TRAPS

All Ship All Shore was forwarded by our National Vice President to congratulate Mike Hickey on turning 99 years old. From all reports he is overwhelmed by the well wishes and I guess the highlight of his life next year will be a card from HRH.

Hi Greg,
 
Please post this for my City2Surf ‘Walk’ on 24th October.
 
2020 City2Surf Nepean River Walk.
In less than two weeks, I will be taking on The Sun-Herald City2Surf Virtual Fun Run and have chosen to dedicate my challenge to The Cancer Centre for Children at The Children’s Hospital at Westmead. Thanks to the amazing support and generosity so far, I have raised $735.00 for a cause very close to my heart. I have been challenged to raise at least $50 in the next 48 hours to go in the draw to win an awesome Seiko watch. I would love your help! Please head to my online fundraising page to make a donation of whatever you can manage and share this post. Thank you in advance for your support: https://city2surf21.grassrootz.com/chw/carol-wilson
 
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Carol
Authors Note: Carol is an absolute stalwart in our NSW Branch and as Secretary does a fantastic job and the work she does to support for the Cancer Centre for Children is amazing. BZ Carol and let us all pitch in around Australia and support her effort.
 

From Singapore

Dear Six,
 
I loved the pics of Milly. As handsome as ever.  I’d like to relate the story of my first encounter with Milly.
 
It’s 1983 and I’m 6O in Ovens heading north up the Q’ld coast. It’s my first ever solo as a surface OOW in an O Boat.
I get the call from below to relieve the lookout, shortly thereafter I see a shock of a long blonde wig and a nice little red floral dress wearing steaming bats.
Up pops Milly, who plants himself up close and personal next to me on the bridge seat. He puts an arm around my shoulders and smiles his stubbly face into mine.
He says, in a camp voice “Hi, I’m Able Seaman Milburn. I’m your lookout and you can call me Milly”
 
Being an ex lower decker myself I reply, “Hello Milly. I’m Sub-Lieutenant Bray. I’m your Officer of the Watch and you can call me Sir. Now f**k off back there (indicating with my thumb) into the lookout’s position.”
Milly was initially crestfallen as his attempt to ‘shock and awe’ the 6O had failed miserably. I was smiling to myself and thought his attempt deserved merit 😊
But, he soon bounced back and I think we liked each other very much after that.
 
I smile every time I remember this, like so many other experiences in boats. Feel free to add this to your next edition mate.
 
Vicki and I have bought a lovely house near Tanunda in the Barossa. We return home from Singers on 2 December.
 
All the best,
 
Ian (aka Donkey)

From the Philippines.

Picked it up on Facebook and Tony Noakes is out of lockdown/isolation and supporting family of his dearly departed Soul Mate.

Mike Bennett in Vic got a POC in Canada and we will be doing the same for the Grot.
By way of introduction, I am the incumbent Chairman of the Royal Naval Association Port Phillip Bay Branch (RNAPPBB), Victoria, Australia. I am also a retired R.N. Submariner, having served on both Diesel (SSK) and Nuclear (SSBN) boats.
 
Sam Morrow of the SA West of Scotland Branch forwarded me your Fall edition of ‘Angles and Dangles’; what a truly wonderful publication it is, which I thoroughly enjoyed reading . BZ in Naval Parlance!
I would be really appreciative if you could include me on your distribution list: then I can copy not only the RNA readership in Australia but also the Aussie based submarine community via my old oppo Greg (No.6) Jones the editor of ‘The Grot’.
 
The RNAPPBB produce a monthly newsletter entitled ‘Port Phillip Papers’ and I have taken the liberty of attaching the October edition for your inspection. If you would like to be added to the email list, then please let me know.
 

A Bra

 
A bra, car battery and some jumper cables walk into a bar..
 
The car battery and jumper cables go find a seat while the bra asks the bartender for 3 beers. The bartender replies,
 
'I'm not serving you! You're obviously off your tit's and your two mates look like they're about to start something.'
 

Port Phillip Papers and Down Under Newsletters have been promulgated for this month and PPP a particular good read and go to their respective websites to view.
Whiskey Tour
CAN YOU IMAGINE THE NUN SITTING AT HER DESK GRADING THESE PAPERS, ALL THE WHILE TRYING TO KEEP A STRAIGHT FACE AND MAINTAIN HER COMPOSURE!  PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THE WORDING AND SPELLING. IF YOU KNOW THE BIBLE EVEN A LITTLE, YOU'LL FIND THIS HILARIOUS! IT COMES FROM A CATHOLIC ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEST. 
 
KIDS WERE ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS. THE FOLLOWING 25 STATEMENTS ABOUT THE BIBLE WERE WRITTEN BY CHILDREN.
 THEY HAVE NOT BEEN RETOUCHED OR CORRECTED.  INCORRECT SPELLING HAS BEEN LEFT IN 

1. IN THE FIRST BOOK OF THE BIBLE, GUINESSIS. GOD GOT TIRED OF CREATING THE WORLD SO HE TOOK THE SABBATH OFF. 
 
2. ADAM AND EVE WERE CREATED FROM AN APPLETREE. NOAH'S WIFE WAS JOAN OF ARK. NOAH BUILT AND ARK AND THE ANIMALS CAME ON IN PEARS. 
 
3. LOTS WIFE WAS A PILLAR OF SALT DURING THE DAY, BUT A BALL OF FIRE DURING THE NIGHT. 
 
4. THE JEWS WERE A PROUD PEOPLE AND THROUGHOUT HISTORY THEY HAD TROUBLE WITH UNSYMPATHETIC GENITALS. 
 
5. SAMPSON WAS A STRONGMAN WHO LET HIMSELF BE LED ASTRAY BY A JEZEBEL LIKE DELILAH. 
 
6. SAMSON SLAYED THE PHILISTINES WITH THE AXE OF THE APOSTLES. 
 
7. MOSES LED THE JEWS TO THE RED SEA WHERE THEY MADE UNLEAVENED BREAD, WHICH IS BREAD WITHOUT ANY INGREDIENTS. 
 
8. THE EGYPTIANS WERE ALL DROWNED IN THE DESSERT. AFTERWARDS, MOSES WENT UP TO MOUNT CYANIDE TO GET THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. 
 
9. THE FIRST COMMANDMENTS WAS WHEN EVE TOLD ADAM TO EAT THE APPLE. 
 
10. THE SEVENTH COMMANDMENT IS THOU SHALT NOT ADMIT ADULTERY. 

11. MOSES DIED BEFORE HE EVER REACHED CANADA THEN JOSHUA LED THE HEBREWS IN THE BATTLE  OF GERITOL. 
 
12. THE GREATEST MIRICLE IN THE BIBLE IS WHEN JOSHUA TOLD HIS SON TO STAND STILL AND HE OBEYED HIM. 
 
13. DAVID WAS A HEBREW KING WHO WAS SKILLED AT PLAYING THE LIAR. HE FOUGHT THE FINKELSTEINS, A RACE OF PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN BIBLICAL TIMES. 
 
14. SOLOMON, ONE OF DAVIDS SONS, HAD 300 WIVES AND 700 PORCUPINES. 
 
15. WHEN MARY HEARD SHE WAS THE MOTHER OF JESUS, SHE SANG THE MAGNA CARTA. 
 
16. WHEN THE THREE WISE GUYS FROM THE EAST SIDE ARRIVED THEY FOUND JESUS IN THE MANAGER. 
 
17. JESUS WAS BORN BECAUSE MARY HAD AN IMMACULATE CONTRAPTION. 
 
18. ST. JOHN THE BLACKSMITH DUMPED WATER ON HIS HEAD. 
 
19. JESUS ENUNCIATED THE GOLDEN RULE, WHICH SAYS TO DO UNTO OTHERS BEFORE THEY DO ONE TO YOU. HE ALSO EXPLAINED A MAN DOTH NOT LIVE BY SWEAT ALONE. 
 
20. IT WAS A MIRICLE WHEN JESUS ROSE FROM THE DEAD AND MANAGED TO GET THE TOMBSTONE OFF THE ENTRANCE. 

21. THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOWED THE LORD WERE CALLED THE 12 DECIBELS. 

22. THE EPISTELS WERE THE WIVES OF THE APOSTLES. 
 
23. ONE OF THE OPPOSSUMS WAS ST. MATTHEW WHO WAS ALSO A TAXIMAN. 

24. ST. PAUL CAVORTED TO CHRISTIANITY, HE PREACHED HOLY ACRIMONY, WHICH IS ANOTHER NAME FOR MARRAIGE. 
 
25. CHRISTIANS HAVE ONLY ONE SPOUSE. THIS IS CALLED MONOTONY. 
 
  
Aren't Children great!

BEST BARS...   As good as this bar is," said the Scotsman, "I still prefer the pubs back home. In Glasgow, there's a wee place called McTavish's where the landlord goes out of his way for the locals - when ye buy four drinks, he buys ye the fifth."   "Well, Angus," said the Englishman, "at the Red Lion in London, the barman will buy your third drink after you buy two."   "Ahhh, dat's nootin'," said the Irishman, "back home in me favorite pub, the moment you set foot in the place they'll buy you a drink, then another, all the drinks you like, actually.  Then, when you've had enough drinks, they'll take you upstairs and see dat you gets laid, all on the house!"   The Englishman and Scotsman were suspicious of the claims. "Did this actually happen to you?"   "Not meself, personally, no," admitted the Irishman, "but it did happen to me sister quite a few times.

And that wraps it up for this fortnight. Big one in two weeks time for Remembrance Day. We welcome any contributions of interest.
 

Shut and Clipped for this week


Yours Aye 
 
Greg Jones #6
coxswain@submarinesaustralia.com
0432 559 283


 
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