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Welcome to the Coxswain's Grot - Issue 106.

Fellow Submariners, welcome to this fortnights edition. COVID has taken its toll with many, but not us. We are used to isolation and it’s a walk in the park. We have communication, can get to the shops, speak to a mate and wear a face mask (Just like wearing DCBA or OCCABA). Life goes on and we will overcome this animal.

VMT to Mark Sander (Director of the Submarine Institute, Dave Nichols and Frank Owen for their continued support and another informative read:

Submarine Institute of Australia
SIA Media Release - Submarine conference set to go ahead
Submarine Institute of Australia - 24 August 2021
Submarine News
Subs From Down Under: Meet Australia’s Collins-Class Submarine
The National Interest - 30 August 2021
The six boats are a key element of the Australian Defence Force.
Australia. According to the Submarine Institute of Australia, the Collins-class was one of the first submarines to be completely designed by
New six-part series ‘Vigil’ set to premiere in Australia on August 30
Townsville Bulletin (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 29 August 2021
With a plethora of fresh options flooding ‘new to streaming’ menus on the regular, declaring a TV show “unlike ...
mission all the more risky, the submarine can’t be taken offline or to the dock to remain operational as a nuclear deterrent, so police have
Easy Lies & Influence in the $90b submarine boondoggle
John Menadue - 29 August 2021
No-one knew what the evaluation process involved, but it was clear the decision was political, not driven by the obligation of government ...
by Monash University Publishing. JON STANFORD: Second rate leadership: Future Submarine Part 4 of 4 Share and Enjoy ! SHARE TWEET SHARE
Saab Awarded Contract to Expand Capabilities of A26 Blekinge-class Submarines
Naval News - 27 August 2021
Saab has today received a further order from the Swedish Defence Material Administration (FMV) to continue the development and production, ...
-class is a 65m long modern submarine with a surfaced displacement of 2,000 tonnes. Equipped with a Stirling AIP, it can dive for more than
US Navy Obliterates Missile Frigate With Torpedos In Weapons Exercise
IFL Science - 27 August 2021
tested the Harpoon weapon system, before an attack submarine dealt the final blow with two advanced torpedoes. As you can see in the video,
HMAS Waller to return to service following electrical trouble
Australian Defence Magazine - 26 August 2021
The Collins-class submarine HMAS Waller will return to service in September, five months after being damaged by an onboard electrical ...
The Collins-class submarine HMAS Waller will return to service in September, five months after being damaged by an onboard electrical fire
Rosoboronexport invited to bid in Indian submarine tender — company
TASS Russia News Agency - 26 August 2021
The total project cost is estimated at about $7 bln
tender for the construction of six Project 75(i) submarines with the air-independent propulsion (AIP) plant was announced on July 20, 2021.
What’s the real cost of Australia’s submarine capability?
The Strategist - 24 August 2021
You can have a cheap submarine capability, or you can have a safe and effective one. There’s no third option. Australia has chosen the ...
should be attributed to submarines, for example. Or how to identify indirect costs such as educating future submarine officers at the
Vince Connelly: The one piece of infrastructure needed at Henderson to look beyond submarines for WA
The West Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 24 August 2021
For too long, WA and SA have pitted themselves against one another over the location of full-cycle docking (long- ...
of full-cycle docking (long-term maintenance) of the Collins-class submarines. The problem with this approach is that we’re not focusing on
Royal Navy seeking submarine escape survival equipment
UK Defence Journal - Impartial and Current - 23 August 2021
4,500 sets of survival equipment will be purchased for the Royal Navy, the sets will be required to work in depths of up to 198 metres with ...
of up to 198 metres with a surface survival time of 72 hours. Submarine Escape Survival Equipment (SESE) is a whole-body suit comprising a
Local industry wins $10m in SEA 1000 contracts
Defence Connect - 23 August 2021
Common supply contracts have been awarded to over 100 local firms in support of the Future Submarines program.
keep growing.” Naval Group executive vice president for the Future Submarine Program Lilian Brayle said the shipbuilding prime would also
Free Webinar on HMAS PLATYPUS - The Early Oberon Years
FHSM - 23 August 2021
Attached is a flyer which outlines the speakers and the topics and I am sure that you will find it an entertaining event. To register for the Webinar you can use the link to the online form as follows: alternately, you can use the form on the FHSM Website link
Memorial to 84 WWII U.S. Sailors Lost Aboard USS Bullhead Unveiled in Australia
USNI - 23 August 2021
A memorial to the 84 officers and crew of the last U.S. Navy ship lost in World War II, USS Bullhead (SS-332), was recently unveiled in Fremantle, Western Australia, a vital homeport to American, British and Dutch submarines in the Pacific theater. The memorial, located outside the Western Australi
Operation Penguin! Navy plan to put flippers on submarines as it explores 'evolutionary biomechanics' to power vessels
Daily Mail - 22 August 2021
Royal Navy want a 'unique propulsion system' based on the movement of fish Plans inspired by 'flapping fins of swimming animals', ...
rays, penguins and turtles’ (Pictured: Artist impression of potential future Royal Navy submarine technology) ‘Project Penguin’ got off to a
New NATO Submarine Rescue Mission Technology Released by Global Software Agency, Tivix
Open PR - 20 August 2021
Tivix has rebuilt a NATO software system to organize and coordinate rescue missions for submarines in distress across the globe. NATO ...
: The International Submarine Escape and Rescue Liaison Office (ISMERLO) is an organization that coordinates submarine search and rescue
A New Submarine Museum Has Opened Up In China
Wonderful Engineering - 20 August 2021
Unique and new ways of attracting tourists and creating new landmarks for the area have become quite popular. Governments and authorities ...
A New Submarine Museum Has Opened Up In China
The accidental senator • Hamish McDonald
Inside Story - 20 August 2021
An independent from South Australia is exerting outsized influence in Canberra
costly, very risky future submarine project.” He clearly thinks Canberra would have been better sticking to an existing submarine like the
Norfolk Naval Shipyard sends future moored training ship USS San Francisco to Charleston
The Defense Visual Information Distribution Service (DVIDS) - 20 August 2021
from an operational fast-attack submarine to a moored training vessel is an investment in the Navy’s future,” said San Francisco Commanding
Buyout of British defence supplier Ultra Electronics paused by over competition concerns
The Register - 19 August 2021
Regulator will report back to DCMS after 5-month probe
British armed forces. Among other items it supplies sonar systems for nuclear submarines, as well as aerospace components and subsystems.
Germany likely to opt out of Navy’s submarine project, South Korean company may be only vendor
Indian Defence Research Wing - 19 August 2021
SOURCE: ET The Navy’s plan to build six conventional submarines in India for an estimated Rs 43,000 crore is heading for troubled waters, ...
and Spain –– do have AIP technology but it is not fitted on a submarine where it can be demonstrated. AIP technology has been demonstrated
Watch: WWII Submarine USS COD heads back to Cleveland - 19 August 2021
The 78-year-old WWII Submarine USS COD is heading back to Cleveland Wednesday after being dry docked in Erie since mid-June. Fontaine ...
back home. While dry docked, the 78-year-old submarine received refurbished torpedo tubes, ballast tank plating and a completely new coat of
This Was the Navy’s Last Conventionally Powered Submarine
The National Interest - 18 August 2021
The vessel was added to the National Register of Historic Places in September 2008.
fully nuclear submarine fleet some six years before Down Periscope was made, and moreover, the fleet still maintained the research submarine
Trailer and release date for the pulse-pounding BBC submarine drama Vigil
FLICKS - 17 August 2021
Submarines are about one of the most innately tense and claustrophobic locations for drama—have y’all seen Das Boot? That implicit threat ...
when there’s a mysterious death aboard the HMS Vigil , a Trident nuclear submarine. Detective Chief Inspector Amy Silva (Suranne Jones,

Our National Historian Peter Smith has been busy and has forwarded the following:


On 13 July 2021 was the 86th anniversary of the formation of the Submarines Association here in Australia.
    On ANZAC Day 1935 around seven former submariners met up and on the suggestion from Alfred “Bogey” Harris they went back to his home in Kogarah, NSW for an afternoon drinking session. Bogey’s wife, Elsie, was rather put out by the impromptu party, as it being a public holiday, she had to go next door to borrow a tin of salmon to make sandwiches for them.
 Elsie and Alfred Harris.
During that afternoon it was suggested that a submarine association be set up here in Australia. Unfortunately, due to the lack of information I can only assume that a steering committee was formed, and a letter was written to the only known submarine association, the “Submarine Old Comrade’s Association, (SOCA) London Branch” which was officially recognised in 1933 and had rooms in the Strand, seeking permission to set up a Sydney Chapter of SOCA. That permission was granted, and an official steering committee was then organised.
   The “First Submarine Re-union” for Saturday, 13 July 1935, an agenda was typed up which states; 7.30pm Assemble, Toast “The King” followed by a Silent Toast (for Absent Frends and Shipmates) which was then followed by the reading of the report and Election of Officers, the rest of the agenda declared further toasts and songs.
    At that meeting the following submariners were elected to Office, Commander Frank E. Getting RAN as President, the others were W.C. Miller as Chairman, W. Briggs, Secretary and J.F. Beaucham Treasurer. 
    That historical reunion gave the world its first international submarine association, all other associations including SOCA Branches accept Gosport, Portsmouth and Plymouth which had been formed between 1930-32, the rest were not formed until after the Second World War. 
    The afore mentioned agenda was recently sent to me by my predecessor as National Secretary Mr. Gordon Selby who believes it was part of Elsie Harris’ submarine memorabilia that ended up among papers when she made a substantial donation in her will, which was the basis of the SAA Welfare Foundation. The card is 20 by 12.4 centimetres and has many faded signatures of participants at that first reunion. One signature is made prominent by being above the heading and that is of the last of the founding members, George Fredric’s (1906-2000). It is a pity that I was not aware of George’s involvement in the founding of the Association as I would have written this history earlier, other than this card there is no other written history of the founding of the SAA or minutes of subsequent meetings.
    On the back of the agenda is several other signatures one of them being Karl Weisser who served in German U-Boats, U-23 and U-26 there is no information available on whether he became a member. 
    SOCA Sydney Chapter continued with this title until 1980 when it was decided to change the association’s name to SAA to attract the younger serving submariners in joining.
    Submarine Old Comrade’s Association, (SOCA) London Branch within the past few years has shut down, the reasons why are hard to detect even with the help of today’s modern communications.
    The above story is based on the agenda and second-hand oral history, during research I tried to find out where the Association had its first meeting as there was alcohol involved. I had thought that it may have been the Royal Navy House better known as “Johnnies”, but they did not have the facilities for meetings and because of temperance, a bar was not introduced until 1940, which was known to the older submariners amongst us as the “Snake Pit”.  I had heard of the British Centre and researched this, only to find that it was built towards the end of World War Two. In recent research, I found that the submariners held their meetings in upstairs rooms of a drinking spot in Angel Place, Sydney, the only place that I have so far found is the Angel Hotel, 125 Pitt Street which could have been our oldest home.    
LCRD Frank Getting        Tom Jones second from the left as president of SAA circa 1950s.
The Tradition of Colours and Sunset

The Tradition of Colours and Sunset
All Royal Australian Navy (RAN) commissioned ships and shore establishments wear a suit of colours which normally comprises the Australian National Flag (ANF), the Australian White Ensign (AWE) and a commissioning pennant.
In a warship the ANF is flown from a ‘jackstaff [1]’ situated in the bows of the ship. The AWE, colloquially referred to as simply the ‘ensign [2]’ is flown from an ensign staff located on the quarterdeck or at the aft end of a ship’s flight deck. A commissioning pennant [3] is flown continuously from the masthead throughout a ships commission. A ship wearing this suit of colours is referred to as being a ‘private’ ship.
When a senior naval officer, who is entitled to fly a distinguishing flag [4] or broad pennant [5], is present in an official capacity, or exercising command in a RAN ship or establishment, the commissioning pennant is displaced. On those occasions, that personage’s broad pennant or distinguishing flag is flown in lieu. A warship wearing this suit of colours is referred to as a ‘flagship’.

The Chief of Navy's distinguishing flag flying in lieu of a commissioning pennant to denote his presence while sea-riding in an Armidale Class patrol boat.
Traditionally the practice of hoisting and lowering the ANF and AWE is conducted in ceremonies known as morning ‘Colours’ or evening ‘Sunset’. The ceremonies are conducted in commissioned shore establishments, in ships alongside in harbour and by those moored to a buoy or at anchor. Ships at sea do not observe the custom. Instead, they continuously fly the AWE from a gaff on the mainmast.

In Australia the ceremony of ‘Colours’ takes place at 08:00 daily and involves marks of respect being accorded to the raising and lowering of the ANF and AWE by designated duty personnel.
Five minutes before 08:00 a pennant, known as the preparative [6] is hoisted on the foremast to indicate ‘five minutes to 8 o’clock’. On observing this, a report to that effect is made to the Officer-of-the-Day (OOD [7]) by duty watch personnel. At one minute before 08:00 the preparative pennant is shaken to alert those involved in the ceremony to come to attention. At 08:00 the preparative pennant is dipped and the report ‘8 o’clock Sir/Maam!’ is made to the OOD who responds with the order ‘Make it so!’ The ships bell [8] is then rung eight times in a cadence of 4 x 2 strikes and the ‘still’ piped on a boatswain’s call [9]. The ANF and AWE are then raised before the ‘carry on’ is piped and the ceremony completed.
The time of ‘sunset’ is determined by the setting of the sun as promulgated in the Nautical Almanac. The ceremony is similar to that of ‘colours’ although the ship’s bell does not feature in proceedings.
Five minutes before ‘sunset’ the preparative pennant, is hoisted on the foremast to indicate ‘five minutes to sunset’. On observing this, a report to that effect is made to the Officer-of-the-Day (OOD) by duty watch personnel. At one minute before sunset the preparative pennant is shaken to alert those involved in the ceremony to come to attention. At sunset the preparative pennant is dipped and the report ‘Sunset Sir/Maam!’ is made to the OOD who responds with the order ‘Pipe the still!’ The ‘still’ is duly piped on a boatswain’s call and the ANF and AWE lowered. On completion of the ceremony the ‘carry on’ is piped and duty personnel dismissed.
Did you know that vexillology is the scientific study of the history, symbolism and usage of flags or, by extension, any interest in flags in general?
On special occasions the ceremonies of ‘colours’ and ‘sunset’ may be conducted in the presence of a naval guard and band. When this occurs the guard is brought to attention and the ‘general salute’ made while morning colours are raised to the musical accompaniment of the first verse of the Australian Nation Anthem, Advance Australia Fair. The AWE and ANF are raised in time with this musical score.
When full ceremonial is accorded for the lowering of colours it is known as ‘Ceremonial Sunset’. In shore establishments, and those ships fitted with flight decks, it is often preceded by a 'Beat to Quarters [10]', a practice that dates back centuries to the age of sail when a ship’s drums were beaten to summon men to quarters or action stations when battle was imminent. Today the inclusion of Beat to Quarters honours the courage and sacrifice of the men and women of the Royal Australian Navy through more than a century of service during war and peace.
Following Beat to Quarters the drummers retire to the band and the guard advances to commence the age old naval tradition of saluting the lowering of the Ensign at sunset each day. At five minutes to Sunset, the Evening Hymn, 'The Day thou Gavest Lord is Ended' is played. A volley of shots is fired by the guard during the rendering of this hymn which echoes a very old practice of saluting the knell of parting day.
The tradition of ceremonial sunset being observed at the RAN Recruit School, HMAS Cerberus.
The tradition of ceremonial sunset being observed at the RAN Recruit School, HMAS Cerberus.
  1.  The term ‘Jack’ has its origins in the Royal Navy. It was the name given to the Union Flag which in the 1800s was flown from a staff on the bowsprit of HM Ships. Hence the term ‘jackstaff’.
  2.  Ensign - From the Anglo-Saxon 'segn'. A large flag or banner, hoisted on a long pole erected over the stern and called the ensign-staff.
  3.  A long, white pennant displaying a red St Georges cross against the hoist. The pennant is flown from the main masthead from the day a ship commissions until she decommissions. It is only displaced by Royal Standards or a naval distinguishing flag or broad pennant.
  4.  Distinguishing flags are flown by a person so entitled to denote his presence in a ship, boat, vehicle, place or establishment. Certain RAN appointments for rear admirals and above are entitled to fly these flags.
  5.  A broad pennant is distinguishable by its triangular shape with a ‘V’ shaped ‘swallow tail’ cut in the fly. In the RAN certain commodore appointments are entitled to fly this pennant.
  6.  The preparative pennant comprises a yellow field divided horizontally by a green band. In harbour its use is associated with the ceremonies of Colours and Sunset.
  7.  The officer entrusted by a Commanding Officer with the safety of the ship in all its aspects while alongside in harbour.
  8.  A ship’s bell is normally mounted on the quarterdeck or the flight deck of HMA Ships. It is inscribed with the name of the ship and the year of commissioning. It features prominently in the ceremony of ‘Colours’ and is often used as a font when baptisms are conducted onboard HMA Ships.
  9.  Piping is a naval method of passing orders. In days gone by many of these orders were passed by use of a whistle known as a ‘Boatswain’s call’ or ‘pipe’. The ‘still’ is a high pitched, constant tone of 8 seconds duration. The ‘carry on’ begins with a high-pitched tone of one second followed by a low tone of one second duration.
  10.  Beat to Quarters - the order for a drummer to summon every one to his respective station. Beat to Arms - the signal by drum to summon the men to their quarters.


HMAS Waller has been in the news:
HMAS Waller is the third of the six Collins class submarines to enter service in the RAN. (Defence)

The Collins-class submarine HMAS Waller will return to service in September, five months after being damaged by an onboard electrical fire while alongside at HMAS Stirling. 

Responding on notice to questions raised in Senate Estimates by Labor senator Kimberley Kitching, Defence disclosed the fire occurred on 8 April in an auxiliary machine space.

Although the blaze was successfully extinguished it reignited approximately four hours later and was again extinguished. The cause was attributed to a flash-over of an electrical motor.

At the time HMAS Waller was preparing to conduct an operational workup and unit readiness evaluation, Defence said. 

The Defence response did not mention a flooding incident on 22 March in which water flowed into HMAS Waller through the conning tower hatch while the submarine was surfaced in a heavy swell off the West Australian coast.

“All procedures and safety systems operated correctly. However, this water ingress caused numerous electric failures which required the submarine to return to Fleet Base West for repairs," Defence subsequently explained. 

In February 2014 a fire broke out in a starting resistor cabinet for Waller’s main propulsion motor in the aft compartment of the 3,407 tonne submarine while surfaced off the West Australian coast.

The fire was smothered by an emergency fire suppression system but four crew were evacuated by helicopter after inhaling halon gas from the suppression system.

Repairs were carried out in conjunction with a scheduled major docking which was advanced by several months, and the submarine was out of service for about two years.

I will jump on my soap box again and implore you to make contact with our Collins Class Brothers and Sisters and suggest joining the SAA. It is in fact for their benefit and are our future heading into 2035.
Peter O'Donohue wrote:
Video of the USS Bullhead SS 332 Memorial unveiling Fremantle Western Australia.
I get a couple of cameos.
The video is 30 minutes long but interesting non the less. Waiting for my Oscar nomination!🙃



VALE Ronald James Bateman - R43170

Jan 66 Intake and an ERA

His Vietnam Service included 7 x Trips to Vung Tau in HMAS Sydney from 1969 to 1971.
Al Mooney and Mick Lynch, advised that Ron went to submarines, probably after Sydney. Paid off as a WO Tiff late 80s. They lost track after that. 
If anyone would like to make any comments or condolences, please send direct to Bob Durbin who can let the family know any messages given.
His funeral is at the War Vets on Friday.  Service will be streamed live via YouTube.  RSL Chapel livestream.  2pm Friday 3 September.
I remember Ron and served with him on Orion. He came inboard when he picked up his Boards and was Barrack Master and my DO. When I was in board and took over from Pig Pen (RIP) in the Compressor Room was instrumental in sweet talking CASS (Peter Briggs) in my transfer of rate to Grocer and could talk under water with a mouth full of marbles. Although not a member of SAA is still a Submariner and will be remembered by those who served with him. Fair winds and smooth seas Ron to you final port of call.
Bishop Keith (Frank) Dalby has been informed as such and offers the following to Ron’s Family and Friends:


O Father, Hear our prayer to thee
For your humble servants
Beneath the sea

In the depths of oceans, as oft they stray
So far from night, so far from day
We would ask your guiding light to glow
To make their journey safe below

Please oft times grant them patient mind
Then ‘ere the darkness won’t them blind
They seek thy protection from the deep
Please grant them peace when ‘ere they sleep

Of their homes and loved ones far away
We ask you care for them each day
Until they surface once again
To drink the air and feel the rain

We ask your guiding hand to show
A safe progression sure and slow.
Dear Lord, please hear our prayer to thee,
For your humble servants
Beneath the sea.



Mick wood has been deep and quiet and have supplemented with the following:
Duty and Service
On March 29 1941- almost 80 years ago- a young naval officer was in charge of the spotters on board HMS Valiant, a great battleship in the Royal Navy. Their targets were 3 capital ships from the Italian navy- they had received information from the code breaking geniuses at Bletchley Park. The search was on. In the darkness above the horizon the young officer noticed what appeared to be metal turrets reflecting off the searchlights of the Valiant. He had spotted the enemy and battle commenced. The battle of Cape Matapan was underway. In a fierce engagement 2 Italian capital ships were sunk.
The young officer was mentioned in dispatches and commended for bravery. That young officer was a 19 year old Philippos Andreou of Schleswig Holstein- Sonderberg- Glucksberg, Prince of Greece and Denmark. The World knows him today as Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh and consort of Queen Elizabeth. He didn’t step down from active royal duties until his late 90s- a total legend!
Five months before her future husband was engaged in a life and death struggle off the coast of Greece, a young Princess Elizabeth, aged 14, gave her first broadcast to the commonwealth of nations loyal to the great cause and specifically the children. At that time Britain stood alone- a seemingly hopeless cause. Churchill’s greatness and leadership will be remembered as long as history is faithfully told. He was supported at all times by King George and his indomitable wife Queen Elizabeth ( the Queen Mother). Both the King and his wife flatly refused to leave London- their daughters would stay with them as well. Buckingham Palace itself was very badly damaged in a bombing raid- the Queen said it “allowed her to look the East End proudly in the face”.
The young Princess finished her address as follows: We know everyone of us, that in the end all will be well: for God will care for us and give us victory and peace. And when peace comes, remember it will be for us, the children of today to make the world of tomorrow a better and happier place. My sister is by my side and we are both going to say goodnight to you.  Come on Margaret. Goodnight children”
From that day in October 1940 the Queen has led a life of total service and sacrifice. She presides over the commonwealth of nations, comprised of 54 countries with a population of 2.5 billion people. Her commitment to this organisation has had the most profound effect on the wellbeing of these people. Most of these are people of colour. It could well be argued that under her stewardship no family on Earth has done more to improve the lives of people of colour.
Recently we have witnessed the slick narcissism of a moderately successful Hollywood actress and her mesmerised and dominated husband perform an act of pure spite and self promotion. Not satisfied with their lot in life, a life of almost unimaginable privilege and wealth they go on worldwide TV in a futile attempt to discredit the monarchy and by extension the aged and great couple who lead the family. Predictably the race card is played: all the usual charlatans in the media and left wing politics jump on the bandwagon- even the wretched Hillary Clinton reared her awful head!  Their pathetic attempt is doomed to failure.
On the day this piece of utter guff was released the Royal family were out doing what they do: visiting hospitals, workers, sick children and various other deserving causes. The British people in their wisdom will have scant patience being lectured to by a couple of entitled and misguided morons who in their spite and cruelty have exposed themselves as appalling spoilt brats. The great Duke has since passed away, just short of his 100th birthday. The nation will never forget the debt we owe to the greatest generation. Queen Elizabeth and the late Prince Philip are one of the last links we still have.
Our gratitude doth overflow!
God save the Queen.

This email was sent to members of parliament last night
As you can see, this email is from myself and my husband, who is soon to be an ex-serving member of 35 years with the Australian Army, with 25 years in SASR. You may be aware of recent ABC news articles and segments on 7.30 Report last night entitled "Getting Away With It".
Before I start, please know that I have reached out to the Journalist Mark Willacy directly about the blatant lies in his article, and to Leigh Sales regarding the segment. Neither has responded to my messages.
The events of the last 2 days by Mark Willacy have absolutely crossed a line with this story and we need your help to raise the issue regarding the absolute lies that Willacy insists on creating as fact. Enough is enough and we need you to speak out publicly to condemn this and speak out in defense of SASR and their families because they are unable to.
The song referred to in the article and segment is "Getting Away With It" from a British band called James. The story that has been spun is disgusting and so far from the truth.
There were comments from Dusty Miller, a former medic with SASR and *Christina, who was working in the multimedia cell and deployed to Afghanistan with the regiment. There comments and assumptions they've made about what that song means are SO far from the truth it’s not funny!!!
My name is Xxxxxx and I have been a SAS spouse for almost 20 years and have been at the Gratto functions several times. There have been times, a lot, where the guys sometimes took their shirts off and/or have gotten naked. They dance, do naked heaves and get drunk. But NEVER during family events.
Why is it that this apparent journalist is promoting this as a big deal? In their own bar? These guys, as Minister Hastie and Senator Molan well know, routinely deployed for months at a time, have had a very stressful task to do whilst there and were so under-resourced which increased the risks they faced.
THAT is what the song means - being under-resourced and coming home feeling as though they were LUCKY to be here and paying homage to the guys who didn't come home. The song was always sung as a memorial to them. The song started with a small group and grew in significance as the war went on and more lives were lost. The origin of the song goes back to being sung by friends, then between a soldier and his father-in-law. It was about love and support. That is the origin. From one of the kids who lost his dad, this song speaks to him witnessing his dad's friends (first and foremost) crying remembering his dad and other friends.
The Gratto events portrayed in both the article and segment weren’t public, not advertised and the Gratto has long been a watering hole for operators and families to gather at on return and for other functions.
The segment tried to paint a part of the story about a naked twister game with strippers as common. It was not. It was an isolated event. My husband, who has been in SASR for 25 years has never seen it. Neither have so many others that we've spoken to since these stories came to light.
Soldier's kids have had their 21st birthdays at the Gratto, wives have had milestone birthdays there, there have been engagement parties there. Memorials have been held there with loved ones of the fallen. Even some of the mums of those boys have done heaves on the infamous heave bar. It’s an important place for SASR families to gather to celebrate, remember, get a little silly from time to time but ultimately, to enjoy seeing each other and spending time together. It's not debaucherous as portrayed.
No one understands the life of these men and their families. The story shows that they don’t understand the support that is provided by families and how these men look out for each other.
There is a video in the Segment and article from the Gratto in 2013 of guys shirtless and in budgie smugglers. Really? This is an outrage? They’ve returned from deployment (who knows after how many rotations for some of them) and are singing the song in remembrance of their fallen friends and how what they’ve gone through, no one but them will ever fully understand.
The article and TV segment then go on to show a video from the Fat Ladies Arms, the bar they drank at in Afghanistan. The video showed the guys singing the song and some other footage that doesn't look great. However, the way this is promoted is without any form of context and was from 2007.
2007 was an incredibly traumatic and devastating year for many Soldiers in the Regiment and some of those are people I can identify in the video. We lost 3 soldiers at Swan Island in April 2007; Craig Linacre, Dave O'Neill and Michael McAvoy. Following this, only 6 months later in October 2007, was the killing of Matt Locke in Oruzgan Provence. What was actually being seen in the video, was an expression of grief (the wake) following Matt's death. Matt was considered as someone who was the very best of the best. These men had a right to express their grief given they couldn’t be in Perth for his funeral with his wife and son and the guys I know who were in that video, were incredibly close with Matt.
Why are we coming to you with this? Well, this "journalist" Mark Willacy seems to be on a mission to denigrate the unit and the men who have served our country with honour. He continues to harm families of the fallen, including their children who have lost their fathers.
I know first hand the pain their families feel, as many of my girlfriends from the Regiment are now widows. My husband has lost 2 of his best friends.
The unrelenting smearing continues to hurt the wives and partners and especially the widows and children of soldiers who lived with the daily question of whether their deployed spouse would return home. WE ARE ALL not abstract.
We've lived this strange life since the very beginning of the Afghanistan campaign and continue to live with the grief and loss and trauma of repeated deployments due to under-resourcing and the toll that takes. I can’t give you an exact number of rotations my husband did; there are too many and they start to blend together but we do know that when he counted deployments alone to the Middle East in the last 18 years, he spent well over 5 years of that deployed. That is the reality of what these guys faced, the stress and state of preparedness they lived in every day for the duration of the did spouses and their children. All because they were under-resourced.
Mark Willacy has quoted sources who have not had the same connection or understanding about where and how that song came to represent so much. They just have their opinions. Christina for example, said it was “probable” the song was about doing the wrong things and how triggering it is for her. Mark Willacy didn't even ask her if she’d ever asked any of the guys why the song was so significant.
The way this story has been threaded by Mark Willacy and the ABC has been extremely triggering for us, given how much meaning this song has for us. It brings back memories of our friends who are no longer with us and unites us in our shared grief for them and for everything we’ve all been through. Some guys who have come home are so damaged, they’ll never be the same.
For years, there has been a relentless, one-sided portrayal of the regiment and now the men themselves. It started with the Investigation and Brereton Report, where not even our own Prime Minister, Defence Minister at the time nor the Chief of Defence could defend them. Then throw in the continued stories about painting all of the members as murderers, you can imagine the anger, hurt and trauma that creates.
The final straw has been this narrative that the song is about them getting away with things, it is false.
Not one of us has pushed backed and we’ve had to remain quiet. But enough is enough. This song is about remembering the dead and this story has absolutely crossed a line by trying to denigrate their memory. To us, this is our Khe Sanh. That is the significance of the meaning.
The timing of these stories is so disgusting given what is unfolding in Afghanistan.
There is only one narrative being discussed in these matters and Mark Willacy and the ABC are willfully ignoring anything that doesn’t fit with their story or in Willacy's case, his book.
He’s been on a mission to destroy the regiment and now the men of the regiment for doing very normal things…drinking and being drunk in a private bar. He is exploiting their grief and minimising their sacrifice and that of families.
Everyone has a limit. This is ours. This is the final straw. For years, SASR has been on the receiving end of brutal allegations and slander toward the men who serve, and no active service people have ever responded with an alternate story. No ex-serving officers have even come to their defence. No families have responded. We've been expected to remain silent for security reasons. The line has been crossed.
Given the Royal Commission and the findings from the Brereton Report, our SASR deserves to have the support of our Parliamentary Members and our stories and our trauma need to be acknowledged. As does the harm of these stories and what it is doing to members and their families.
I can't strongly emphasize enough, that I DO NOT WANT my name to be released or made public. I'm consenting to you quoting my email though.
 Ray Payne OAM
76 years later!


We all know that  Hiroshima and  Nagasaki   were destroyed in August 1945
after the explosion of atomic bombs.
However, we know little about the progress made by the people of that land  
during the past 65 years.



What has caused more long term destruction
the  A-bomb,


Government welfare programs created to buy the
votes of those who want someone to take care of them?

Japan does not have a welfare system.

Work for it or do without. 

These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read and all applicable to this experiment:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
Two French paratroopers were seconded to the SAS for special training.
After the first day they met up in the bar. "Ah, Francois," asks one, "ow 'av you been doing?"
"Merde!" answers Francois. "I 'av 'ad ze most terrible day. Terrible! At seex zis morning I was woken by zis beeg 'airy sergeant. 'E dragged me out of bed and on to ze parade ground."
"And zen what 'appened?"
"I will tell you what 'appened! 'E made me climb urp zis seely leetle platform two metres off ze ground and zen 'e said "Jurmp!"
"And did you jurmp?"
"I did not. I told 'im - 'I am a French paratrooper. I do not jurmp Two metres. Eet is beneath my dignity'."
"And zen what 'appened?"
"Zen 'e made me climb urp zis seely leetle platform five metres off ze ground, and 'e said "Jurmp."
"And did you jurmp?"
"I did not. I told 'im - 'I am a French paratrooper. I do not jurmp five metres. Eet is beneath my dignity'."
"What 'appened zen?"
"Zen 'e made me climb urp zis rickety platform thirty metres above ze parade ground. 'E undid 'is trousers, took out zis enormous weely, and 'e said 'If you do not jurmp, I am going to steek zis right urp your burme!'"
"Sacre Bleu, mon ami. And did you jurmp?"
"A leetle, at ze beginning."
Well supported by SAA and as such, a formal letter of support to RADM Peter Briggs will be forwarded. I was suitably impressed by Mike Bennett and his email to the UK/SM Hierarchy requesting support of this initiative and compelled to share:
His Majesty’s Royal Australian Navy Submarine AE1
[Especially compiled for the September 2021 edition of PPP by S/M Mike Bennett]
AE1 Was launched in the yard of Vickers Ltd at Barrow-in-Furness, England on 22 May 1913. She commissioned at Portsmouth on 28 February 1914 under the command of Lieutenant Commander Thomas Fleming Besant, RN.  She was the first of two E Class submarines built for the fledgling Royal Australian Navy and was manned by Royal Navy officers with a mixed crew of sailors drawn from the Royal Navy and the Royal Australian Navy.
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Accompanied by her sister AE2, under the command of Lieutenant Commander Henry Stoker, RN, AE1 departed England in March 1914, transited the Suez Canal, and reached Sydney on 24 May 1914. Although the submarines remained surfaced for almost all of the delivery voyage it was at the time the longest transit distance ever travelled by a submarine.
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At the outbreak of World War I, AE1 joined the naval forces assigned to the capture of the German Pacific colonies. With AE2, she took part in the operations leading to the occupation of German New Guinea, including the surrender of Rabaul on 13 September 1914.
The following day, at 7:00am the destroyer HMAS Parramatta left her night patrol ground off Raluana Point and proceeded at slow speed in the direction of Cape Gazelle to rendezvous with AE1 and conduct a patrol in St George’s Channel to the south and east of the Duke of York Islands. The two vessels met off Herbertshohe at 8:00am and exchanged signals before proceeding to Cape Gazelle where they arrived at approximately 9:00am. A further exchange of signals followed during which Parramatta advised AE1 that her “orders were to search to the south’ard with submarine and anchor off Herbertshohe at 5:30pm.”
Parramatta then proceeded independently in a southerly direction while AE1 advanced in a north-easterly direction. The weather was hazy, and visibility was observed to be between 9 and 10 nautical miles, at times decreasing to 5 miles. Parramatta reported that AE1 was obscured by the haze for some time, as was the nearest land. Given these conditions, Parramatta’s Commanding Officer, Lieutenant William Warren, RAN, considered it advisable not to lose sight of the submarine for too long.
At 12:30 Parramatta turned to the northwest and by 2:30 she was close to AE1 when the submarine asked by signal: ‘What is the distance of visibility?’ Parramatta responded: ‘About 5 miles. At 3:20 the submarine was lost sight of and Parramatta altered course and steamed in the direction she was last seen. No sign of AE1 was found and it was considered that she must have steamed back to harbour without informing Parramatta. Consequently, Parramatta proceeded to the north-west and rounded Duke of York Island before heading to Credner Island, later anchoring off Herbertshohe at 7:00pm.
By 8:00pm the submarine had not returned, and Parramatta and her sister ship HMAS Yarra were ordered to search for the submarine. The light cruiser HMAS Sydney, on her way to the west coast, also received instructions to keep a lookout and later HMA Ships Encounter, and Warrego also joined the search together with launches from Rabaul and Herbertshohe. No trace of AE1 was found, not even the tell-tale shimmer of escaping oil floating on the surface of the water.
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BZ Mike for the support of the project and FYI subscribers, the Project has been forwarded to the Submarine Community spanning the entire UK, Scotland and South Africa. This reinforces how close the Submarine Community in all Navies are willing to answer the call when a request is sought. If supported by UK, a formal letter will be forthcoming to RADM Briggs.
The Roadrunner finally gets caught.
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Gladys Berejiklian Takes Over The World


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OTAMA – spoke to the Western Port Harbor Master this morning, and prep’s are being made to move the old girl into shallow water on Saturday. This in itself has a smorgasbord of issues with floatation devices, pumps running and the environmental impact if it goes arse up.  
In Memoriam Snowy Ross. Hurry up and wait is the word, and when I know you will know but is a long time overdue for Geoff to be interned next to his beloved (Poxy virus stuffs up everything).
A few links that may be of interest:
Russia’s Anchar-Class Submarine Unbelievably Fast—And Earsplittingly Loud | The National Interest

Navy Pursues Large Undersea Attack Drones | The National Interest
Subs From Down Under: Meet Australia’s Collins-Class Submarine | The National Interest
Saab Awarded Contract to Expand Capabilities of A26 Blekinge-class Submarines - Naval News
What’s the real cost of Australia’s submarine capability? | The Strategist
Thanks to Buck Singh for your input
So I was walking through Bankstown and I saw that there was a ‘Muslim Book Store’.
I was wondering what exactly was in a Muslim Bookstore, so I went in.
As I was wondering around taking a look, the clerk stopped me and asked if he could help me.
I imagine I didn’t look like his normal clientele so I asked, “Do you have a copy of Pauline Hanson’s book on the Australian Immigration Policy regarding Muslims and Nigerians?”
The clerk said, “Fuckoff, get out and stay out!”
I said, “Yes, that’s the one.  “Do you have it in paperback?”
Navy plan to put flippers on submarines as it explores 'evolutionary biomechanics' to power vessels 
China military watch | The Strategist
Germany’s Foray into the Seas: The Type 212A Stealth Submarine | The National Interest
Some tune out at this point and choose not to be amused, so those that do please follow the link. There is a good one on Ovens and Otama (pretty long) accompanied by our members submissions. Many have nothing to do in this shitty period of time and flood me with submissions, and for that is appreciated. Why the hell not, have a laugh.
Proper Grammar
We can all use a little “grammar” update now and then so here's one for today . . .
No English dictionary has been able to adequately explain the difference between two words:
Is it “complete" or “finished,” or should it be “completely finished?"

In a recent linguistic competition held in London and attended by, supposedly, the best in the world.
Samdar Balgobin, a Guyanese man, was the clear winner with a standing ovation which lasted over 5 minutes.

The final question was:
"How do you explain the difference between COMPLETE and FINISHED in a way that is easy to understand?
Some people say there is no difference between COMPLETE and FINISHED."

Here is his astute answer:
“When you marry the right woman, you are COMPLETE. When you marry the wrong woman, you are FINISHED.
And when the right one catches you with the wrong one, you are COMPLETELY FINISHED!”

He won a trip around the world and a case of 25-year-old Scotch!
An old doco about HMAS Ovens. It is near on 45 minutes long but is guaranteed to bring back memories.



A Defence Lawyer for the Prosecution Doing His Job


A motorcycle police officer stops a driver for shooting through a red light.
The driver is a real bastard, steps out of his car and comes striding toward the officer,
demanding to know why he is being harassed by the Gestapo!

So the officer calmly tells him of the red light violation.
The motorist instantly goes on a tirade, questioning the officer's ancestry, sexual orientation, etc   in rather explicit offensive terms.

The tirade goes on without the officer saying anything.

When the officer finishes writing the ticket he puts an "AH" in the lower right corner of the
narrative portion of the ticket.
He then hands it to  the 'violator' for his signature.
The bloke signs the ticket angrily, and when presented with his copy points to the "AH" and
demands to know what it stands for.

The officer says,

"That's so when we go to court, I'll remember that you're an Arse Hole!"

Two months later they're in court. The 'violator' has a bad driving record with a high number
of points and is in danger of losing his licence, so he hired a big gun lawyer to represent him.

On the stand the officer testifies to seeing the man run through the red light.

Under cross examination the defence attorney asks; "Officer is this a reasonable facsimile
of the ticket that you issued to my client?"

Officer responds, "Yes, sir, that is the defendant's copy, his signature and mine, same number at the top."

Lawyer: "Officer, is there any particular marking or notation on this ticket you don't normally make?"

"Yes, sir, in the lower right corner of the narrative there is an "AH" underlined."

"What does the "AH" stand for, officer?"

"Aggressive and Hostile, Sir."

"Aggressive and Hostile?"

"Yes, Sir.

"Officer, Are you sure it doesn't stand for Arse Hole?"

Well, Sir,..... You'd know your client better than I do.

~~~~ How often can one get a lawyer to convict his own client ~~~~





More at the Link ( and may all the Dads out there have a wonderful Father’s Day (as much as you can) and in most circumstances, guess it will be take away this year (again).
Finally, appropriate that we remember the devastation caused in the US on the 9th of September 2001 and our hearts go out to the Families to those who were lost. May they rest in Peace.

Shut and Clipped for this week

Yours Aye 
Greg Jones #6
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