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Welcome to the Coxswain's Grot - Issue 112.

Fellow Submariners, welcome to our Christmas edition and enjoy the festivities. Kicking off with a personal Christmas Greeting from Santa to give you peace of mind in these trying times:


Submarine News
‘Tony Abbott’s wrong on this one’: Defence expert dismisses former PM’s comments
2GB - 20 December 2021
A defence expert has rejected Tony Abbott’s take on the AUKUS deal.
on the AUKUS deal. The United States has committed to sending a nuclear submarine to Australia, but former prime minister Tony Abbott says
Defence scrambles to train nuclear scientists for 'exciting roles' on AUKUS program
ABC News - 19 December 2021
Australia will work with the US and the UK on the nuclear submarine program.(AP: US Navy) Students and public servants are being enticed ...
nuclear-powered submarine enterprise." In September Australia announced its intention to acquire at least eight nuclear-powered submarines
White House promises Australia’s nuclear subs will arrive ‘at earliest possible date’
The Australian - 19 December 2021
Australia is on track to receive a nuclear-powered submarine at the earliest possible date, according to the White House, as the three signatories to the AUKUS security pact seek to further expand the scope of their three-month old agreement.
Australia is on track to receive a nuclear-powered submarine at the earliest possible date, according to the White House, as the three signatories to the AUKUS security pact seek to further expand the scope of their three-month old agreement.
New navy uniform keeps sailors cooler at work and safer at sea
The Age - 19 December 2021
The Royal Australian Navy is road testing a new uniform that may not look very different, but offers vastly ...
Royal Australian Navy Navy’s newest officers will one day serve on nuclear-powered submarines “I don’t think [a fire retardant uniform]
Submarines: Secret Taiwan Submarines Revealed
StrategyPage - 18 December 2021
December 18, 2021: In 2020 a naval shipyard in Taiwan quietly began construction of a submarine, something Taiwan was not supposed to be ...
export licenses for major submarine systems. This includes CMS (combat management system), sonar systems, periscope systems and other
Readout of AUKUS Joint Steering Group Meetings
Mirage News - 18 December 2021
Australia, the United Kingdom and the United States of America recently held the inaugural meetings of the AUKUS Trilateral Joint Steering ...
areas. During the Joint Steering Group meeting on Australia’s Nuclear-Powered Submarine Program, the participants reaffirmed the trilateral
Tony Abbott says UK free-trade deal means British submarines better option
The Australian - 18 December 2021
Tony Abbott is urging Australia to opt for British rather than American nuclear submarines following the signing of the new Australia-UK free-trade agreement, saying the FTA would help the program get under way faster.
Tony Abbott is urging Australia to opt for British rather than American nuclear submarines following the signing of the new Australia-UK free-trade agreement, saying the FTA would help the program get under way faster.
Treaties Committee supports first AUKUS agreement – Parliament of Australia
Parliament of Australia - 17 December 2021
Treaties Committee supports first AUKUS agreement Issue date: Friday, 17 December 2021 The ...
‘This Agreement will help determine the optimal pathway for acquiring nuclear-powered submarines for the Royal Australian Navy, one of the
Subs programs pegged as serious fiscal risks
The Australian - 16 December 2021
The costs of acquiring nuclear submarines and terminating the French Attack-class subs have been identified as key fiscal risks.
The costs of acquiring nuclear submarines and terminating the French Attack-class subs have been identified as key fiscal risks.
Future SSN(X) attack submarines will have stealth, and carry large weapons payloads and new communications
Military & Aerospace Electronics - 16 December 2021
WASHINGTON – The U.S. Navy’s next-generation attack submarines will be larger than the existing fleet of Virginia-class attack submarines, ...
of Virginia-class attack submarines Related: New era dawns in ASW as manned and unmanned submarines team for bistatic sonar John Keller ,
Defence ranks boost: South Australia launches first vessel from $4 billion naval build program
Herald Sun (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 16 December 2021
Olympian Nova Peris has launched Arafura, the first of the navy’s two new Offshore Patrol Vessels, which have been ...
the state’s naval projects, which will also include up to eight nuclear-powered submarines, would create hundreds of direct local jobs. “
OPINION | Staying alive in the RAN surface fleet: failure is not an option
Baird Maritime - 16 December 2021
The threat spectrum for surface combatants—ships that can engage air, surface, subsurface and shore targets—is rapidly expanding and ...
high fleet growth OPINION: A fall-back option for the future submarines? Seven Antares joins NigerStar7 fleet Previous BC Ferries names
Lockheed Martin wins Hobart Aegis upgrade contract
Australian Defence Magazine - 16 December 2021
Lockheed Martin Australia was awarded a $33 million design contract on 16 December to support the upgrade of the Aegis Combat System on ...
work in Adelaide, maximising opportunities for its sovereign Future Submarine Program workforce across 40 newly created engineering and
South Korea’s First Nuclear Submarine Looks Closer
Naval News - 15 December 2021
Nuclear submarines offer significant advantages over non-nuclear ones. South Korea as been looking to acquire them for many years and now ...
large for a non-nuclear submarine. The nuclear reactor could slot in, replacing the hull compartment currently used for AIP. Together with
Navy bolsters submarine warfighting force
Defence Connect - 15 December 2021
A new cohort of submariners have joined the warfighting fleet.
, either as sonar officers or operations officers of a Collins Class submarine. The watch leaders will fight and manoeuvre a submarine in
Implementing Australia’s nuclear submarine program
The Strategist - 14 December 2021
On 16 September 2021, the Australian Government announced that it would acquire a nuclear-powered submarine capability with support from ...
of schedule. We’re facing the looming spectre of a submarine capability gap as the Collins-class fleet ages out. The government’s stated
Responding to criticism of the nuclear subs delivery timeline
Defence Connect - 14 December 2021
Navy veteran and defence industry analyst Christopher Skinner responds to a recent editorial published in The Australian, which laments the ...
what the Nuclear-Powered Submarine Taskforce will be working to improve upon. Secondl, the constant muttering about the Collins Class life-
DRDO successfully tests long-range 'Supersonic Missile Assisted Release of Torpedo'
India Today - 13 December 2021
According to officials, the system is being developed to be used by the Indian Navy.
Damaged USS Connecticut Arrives at San Diego After Long Surface Journey
Naval News - 13 December 2021
Both USNI News and TheWarzone reported that the damaged U.S. Navy’s nuclear- powered attack submarine USS Connecticut (SSN 22) ...
spotter Twitter account WarshipCam , the streamlined sonar bow of the Seawolf -class submarine appears heavily damaged, perhaps even
ANSTO confident in reactor safety and security review - 13 December 2021
A review of the safety and security of the country’s only nuclear reactor has been submitted to regulators as the facility gears up for ...
The national nuclear organisation is currently working with the new Submarine Task Force project to determine the type of nuclear submarines
Changing my mind about AUKUS
Lowy Institute for International Policy - 13 December 2021
What I said then, and what I think now, about the nuclear-powered subs announcement that caught everyone by surprise.
defence technology agreement which promises to deliver at least eight nuclear-powered submarines to the Royal Australian Navy – was one of
Helicopters with farcical problems, obsolete submarines and billions wasted: Litany of Defence Force blunders that beg the question - can Australia REALLY protect itself - especially from China?
Daily Mail - 13 December 2021
Australia announces it will ditch its Taipan military helicopters for Black Hawks Defence Minister Peter Dutton made the announcement on ...
a contract with France for its Attack class submarines and embrace nuclear-powered submarines via the AUKUS security agreement announced
Dilemmas over nuclear subs flow from AUKUS pact
The Australian - 13 December 2021
Defence Minister Peter Dutton is correct when he says Chinas angry reaction to the AUKUS security alliance between Australia, the US and Britain, including threats of retribution, is irrational in view of Beijings own military expansion. In September, ...
China’s response to Aukus deal was ‘irrational’, Peter Dutton says
MSN - Australia - 12 December 2021
China has responded “irrationally” to the Aukus pact between Australia, the United States and Britain, the defence minister Peter Dutton ...
arms race in the region “when we’re talking about acquiring eight nuclear-powered submarines at a time when China has 355 vessels in its [
Peter Dutton says China’s reaction to AUKUS was ‘irrational’
Cairns Post (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 12 December 2021
A senior politician has unloaded on Beijing as tensions between Australia and China continue to rise.
Minister Scott Morrison signed the deal in which Australia would acquire nuclear submarines in a major pact earlier this year. In response,
AUKUS gives us more problems than solutions and our safety is at stake
The Australian - 11 December 2021
Now that Australia has finally weathered the diplomatic fallout caused by the creation of the three-nation AUKUS pact, it is time to work out exactly what it means for the nations security. The timelines for Australia’s transition from ageing Collins- ...
Rex Patrick move to lower house seat of Grey hangs on Nick Xenophon’s return to politics
Cairns Post (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 10 December 2021
How a potential return to politics for a former wannabe SA premier could pave the way for Senator Rex Patrick to ...
on highly classified sonar systems for Australian submarines that also involved the US navy. He did trials on US nuclear-powered submarines,
Dumping the ADF’s MRH-90 helicopters is the right call, but why now?
The Strategist - 10 December 2021
The sad saga of the MRH-90 Taipan helicopter has been running for a long time . Back when I worked in the Department of Defence, we used ...
is also due to the cancellation of the Attack class in favour of nuclear-powered submarines (and that’s definitely about China). Defence was
Australia 'in denial' over AUKUS submarines row, as rift with France continues
ABC News - 10 December 2021
Christophe Penot has renewed France's war of words over the scrapped subs deal.(ABC News: Andrew Kennedy) France has restored "a degree of ...
The new AUKUS security alliance is designed to give Australia access to nuclear-powered submarines for the first time, but caused a major
JFD appoints Managing Director for Asia
ADS Advance - 9 December 2021
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employing the knowledge gained through years of operating world-class submarine rescue services with navies across the world. Mr Uchil said
Current facilities at Osborne have firmed as the likely location for the nation’s subs build
The Advertiser (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 8 December 2021
The best place to house Australia’s new nuclear submarines looks like Adelaide, says the man at the helm of the ...
for South Australia and former submariner Rex Patrick said there were still many questions to be answered about nuclear facilities as close
Kongsberg Maritime sonar selected by Norway, Germany
Asia Pacific Defence Reporter - 8 December 2021
Active sonar suite and bottom navigation technology from Kongsberg Maritime (KONGSBERG) has been selected for installation on Type 212CD ...
safe, indigenous submerged operation of the submarines. ORCCA, the most modern combat system for non-nuclear submarines on the market, is
Brazil’s Nuclear-Powered Submarine Project SN-BR Making Progress
Naval News - 7 December 2021
In a ceremony held on November 25, the Brazilian Navy signed an agreement to start building the hull of its first nuclear-powered submarine ...
and construction of four Riachuelo-class conventional submarines (SB-R), the design of the future nuclear-powered submarine (SN-BR) and the
How do you make a submarine?
The Spectator Australia - 6 December 2021
How do you make a submarine?
off the top, but that’s about it. So, we are building our nuclear submarine right here in Adelaide. Consider the Boeing 777; it’s built in
ADBR Sep-Dec 2021 issue online NOW
Australian Defence Business Review - 6 December 2021
The Sept-Dec 2021 issue of ADBR is chock-full of great content, with an emphasis on Airpower which would have aligned with the Avalon ...
, The lead up to the RAN’s plans to acquire nuclear-powered attack submarines, What might a Collins class life-of-type extension look like



HMAS/M Rankin..... A DIESEL SUBMARINE with an ROYAL NAVY TRAINED CAPTAIN entered Pearl Harbour undetected and the yanks knew she was coming and had their fleet including their useless nuclear junk waiting for her...

Collins LOTE to follow Attack class path

Crew stand on the bridge of HMAS Dechaineux to welcome HMAS Collins as she returns to Fleet Base West. Defence

Had they eventuated, the Attack-class submarines would have been larger and looked different to the Collins submarines - but they would have been fitted with similar propulsion systems, sensors and weapons.

Collins boats upgraded under the planned Life-of-Type Extension (LOTE) program will be fitted with German MTU 4000-series diesel engines, Jeumont and Schneider combined systems with a permanent magnet AC motor, and Wartsila Euroatlas power conversion and distribution systems.

The MTU diesels will replace the original Swedish Hedemora diesel engines.

Captain Dan LeRaye, executive director of the Collins LOTE program told the Submarine Institute of Australia conference in Adelaide this week that when LOTE equipment choices were being made, it 'made a lot of sense' to opt for technologies and products as similar as possible to the Attack-class, and it is now 'not possible' to reconsider equipment choices.

“LOTE is not just replacing the systems in the Collins-class with the same technologies as the Attack-class because they are the same as what the Attack-class was getting,” CAPT LeRaye said.

“LOTE is replacing these systems because we must. We must do it to mitigate or eliminate, in essence, the highest risk to achieving the amended planned withdrawal date.”

Procurement of long lead time items begins next year, starting with the main motor. Under the LOTE program, the six Collins boats will be upgraded, beginning with HMAS Farncomb in 2026.

CAPT LeRaye dismissed concerns that the Collins-class might not have sufficient hull life to bridge the gap to the new nuclear submarines. The final Collins vessel, HMAS Rankin, is set to retire in 2048.

CAPT LeRaye said hull fatigue was one of 'five lines of efforts' considered in scoping studies assessing whether the LOTE was viable.

“That was pretty much a deal breaker. If the hull couldn’t go the extra distance, there was no point in doing life extension,” CAPT LeRaye said. “I know that work was done. I know the answer was favourable and I know the answer was peer-reviewed by both NAVSEA and Saab-Kockums.”

The government has approved LOTE work Package A, with Package B still under consideration.

The latter could see Collins boats equipped with optronic periscopes - most likely by French company Safran – as would have been installed on the Attack submarines.

“We have completed concept designs for an optronics capability to replace the search periscope. We are ready to go if government do make a decision to proceed,” CAPT LeRaye said.

However the LOTE program will not fit air-independent propulsion (AIP) system to the class.

Commodore Tom Phillips, Navy Director-General of submarines, said much work on Sea 1000 was done on modelling of the best propulsion train and energy sources for submarines in the Australian context.

He said AIP worked well for nations whose submarines needed to travel short distances to their operational areas.

“If you put AIP into a submarine, you necessarily either make the submarine larger which reduces range and endurance, or you keep the submarine the same size and reduce battery and fuel capacity which again effects endurance and range,” CDRE Phillips said.

In addition, CDRE Phillips said the Sea 1000 modelling found the optimum for Australian circumstances was diesel electric propulsion.

“Even better than that would be nuclear propulsion,” he said. “Based on that, AIP will not be in the LOTE going forward.”

Peter Smith our National Historian has outdone himself this Christmas with this outstanding supplement:
IN DEPTH by Peter Smith.
I was requested by #6 to supply a story for this addition of the Grott on the attack by HMAS AE2 on the Dardanelles. At the time I wrote the following history below, I had very limited information to base the story on. It was not until later that Michael White had his excellent book “Australian Submarines – A History” (ISBN 0 644 24397 X) published in time for our 25th Anniversary of the current Submarine Squadron in 1992. Since then, Michael and his team have since updated that History to two hard backs volumes (ISBN 978 1 876467 26 5). Michael had access to the Navy files which I did not have and was able to add to the oral history along with the reports keep in the Navy repositories in Canberra.  
The first story is based on my own limited research, the second was written by Reuben Mitchell after being released from his Prisoner of War camp in Turkey with a foreword written by me.      
HMAS AE 1 and AE2 by Peter Smith.
     When the Royal Australian Navy was formed in 1911 it was envisaged that the Navy would have at least three sea-going submarines. An order was placed with Vickers Limited at Barrow-in-Furness, England for two of the new improved ‘E’ class, a development of the ‘D’ class submarine. They were larger, better armed and had a greater radius of action.
HMAS AE1 was laid down on 3 November 1911 and HMAS AE2 on 10 February 1912. The submarines were commissioned into the RAN at Portsmouth on 28 February 1914 and arrived in Sydney on May 24 of the same year.
Both boats had a displacement of 725 tons surfaced and 810 submerged. Statistically they were 181 feet overall in length and carried 1,600 hp diesels for surface cruising and 840 hp electric motors when submerged. They had an average speed of 15 knots surfaced and 10 submerged with a range of 3,000 at 10 knots on the surface. The ‘E’ class carried 4 torpedo tubes, one in the bow, one in the stern and two in the beam with a total of 8 torpedoes carried.
     After the arrival of the Navy’s two new boats, both were docked at Cockatoo Island Dockyard, Sydney, to make good defects which became evident on their delivery voyage. With the outbreak of war on 4 August 1914, AE1 under the command of Lieutenant Commander T.F. Besant RN and AE2 under the command of Lieutenant H.H.G.D. Stoker RN, were rushed through their refitting and joined a convoy consisting of the light cruiser HMAS Protector and the requisitioned steamer HMAS Upola which acted as tenders to the submarines. The convoy left Sydney on September 2, to join the Australian Fleet in New Guinea waters in operations against the German Pacific Colonies.
     At 1530 on September 14, AE1 was seen patrolling to the southwest of Duke of York Island by the officers and crew of the destroyer HMAS Parramatta and it was assumed the submarine was returning to harbour at Herbershohe on the island of New Britain for the evening. At 2000, AE1 had not returned.
During the night and all next day searches were made along the coasts of New Ireland and New Britain and neighboring waters. No trace of the submarine was found, not even escaping oil. The fate of the AE1, the first Allied submarine to be lost in World War One, with its 3 officers and 32 men was unknown until recently
     In December 1914, the Australian Government offered the service of AE2 in European waters. The offer was accepted, and the submarine joined the second ANZAC convoy and was towed by the requisitioned armed merchant cruiser HMAS Berrima. The convoy left Albany, Western Australia on 31 December and arrived in the Mediterranean early February 1915. AE2 joined the Royal Navy’s submarine flotilla and shared in the duties of the Dardanelles Patrol of keeping the Turkish warships bottled in the Straits and Sea of Marmora.
     At 0300 on Sunday, 25 April, AE2 entered the Dardanelles Strait, dived off the mouth of the Suandere River and continued up the strait, passing under five lines of mines. Having passed the town of Chanak, Lieutenant Commander Stoker ran into difficulties when AE2 grounded twice in the Narrows and was almost rammed by Turkish warships. Moving out of the Narrows, Stoker spotted a gunboat, a target too good to miss! With care Stoker lined his boat up for a torpedo shot. Within minutes Stoker brought the Australian participation in the war to the other side of the Gallipoli Peninsula when the torpedo hit and again made the Turks aware that their rear was still vulnerable.
In the early hours of Monday morning AE2 entered the Sea of Marmora. With the forcing of the Dardanelles, Stoker sent a signal detailing his success to the Admiral aboard the dreadnought HMS Queen Elizabeth.
     Being the only submarine in the Sea, Stoker decided to harry the Turkish shipping by re-entering the Dardanelles submerged and coming to the surface to give the impression that more than one submarine was in the area. He continued the harassment of shipping until a second submarine HMS E14 under the command of Lieutenant Commander E.C. Boyle RN arrived. Boyle being senior officer suggested that they meet the following day, April 30, in the same area. Unfortunately for Stoker and the crew, they were surprised on the surface at the rendezvous point by the torpedo boat Sultan Hissar which proceeded to attack. Stoker dived the boat but had difficulties with the trim. The boat began going down fast by the bow past the safety limit. With the motors running full speed astern AE2 began to rise rapidly stern first to the surface. When AE2’s stern broke the surface, shells fired from the destroyer began to pierce the submarine and land in the engine room. With the watertight integrity of the submarine impinged, Stoker had no option but to abandon ship and scuttle the boat. The officers and crew were interned in Prisoner of War camp for the duration of the war.
     In his book “Smoke on the Horizon”, Vice Admiral C.V. Usborne RN wrote the following: “The effect of this gallant effort cannot be measured by the vessels Stoker had sunk. He had led the way into the Marmora and started the paralysis which was soon to sweep over the Turkish communications and his exploit must rank high in the annals of naval achievement.”
     To avoid confusion, I have added an A to HMS to make it HMAS, the reason for this is that both AE1 and AE2 were commissioned as HMS AE1 and AE2, it was deemed by the Navy that the second ‘A’ for Australia was superfluous and not required as the A in AE1 and AE2 stood for Australian.              
    The following story is of an Australian Able Seaman whom some military historians believe should have been awarded the Victorian Cross for his courage and compassion while under enemy fire from Turkish guns in the Dardanelles during World War One. The most senior survivor was Petty Officer Coxswain Robert Perkins DSM who wrote in a report, “Reuben Mitchell acted most gallantly. He was on the conning tower with three officers, passing orders below to the helmsman. All the officers were swept off the bridge by shell fire and he was left all alone. Although the enemy had the exact range, and he was clearly visible he stuck to his post and took charge of the doomed boat until it sank. When in the water, he then rescued the wireless operator who was unconscious from head wounds. There was no senior officer (left) to recommend him for his outstanding gallantry, and his only reward was the self-evident fact that he had done his duty.”
    Reuben Joseph Edwin MITCHELL was born in Ballarat, Victoria on 28 July 1894. Having joined the Royal Navy based on the Australia Station he served on several ships before joining HMS Challenger and sailed to England on the ship’s return in 1913. It was while at Portsmouth that he volunteered for submarines and on completion of his training at HMS Dolphin based on Fort Blockhouse and at HMS Vernon, which included training in HM Submarines A6, A13 and E4, he joined HMAS AE2 to return to Australia as an able seaman.  
    When AE2 was deployed to the Mediterranean Mitchell found himself transferred to spare crew on a submarine repair ship when AE2 underwent her sortie up the Dardanelles in April 1915.
    On 27 January 1918 Able Seaman MITCHELL was included in the crew of HMS E14 under the command of LCDR G.S. White RN when they set out to torpedo the German battlecruiser SMS Goeben which had been damaged by a mine and had run aground off Nagara Point in the Dardanelles. 
    The source for most of this story was written in a report by Mitchell himself which was recently found in a file located in the Sampson Collection on Spectacle Island and is reproduced here in verbatim.
     “HM Submarine E14 Lieut-Commander White RN left a naval base on the evening of 27 January with an escort as far as the entrance of the Dardanelles. At 3 am; 28 January, we forced our way through the first line of nets without the resistance. All went well until about 6am, when we ran aground and caught in the nets, which we could not clear, so the captain went to the surface and went out and cleared the obstacle, we believed it to be nets, but he did not say. Before going out the captain left orders for the Lieutenant to dive at once should he whistle or sing out, and “to look after himself as there were 31 men inside: never to mind him”. While the Captain was on the surface he found the gates of the Narrows and that we were at Chanak. He did not hear a shout or anything and came inside the boat and went astern into deep water and got away without being seen. These were the last nets we felt.
    “Now the search for Goeben started, and I believe we went one or two miles past Nagara Point and found that Goeben had gone. We found out during our capture that she was taken away six hours before, this we got from a Turkish naval man, who helped get her off. When the Captain found that she had gone he went back for home, but at Chanak there was a large German liner, which we believed had the ammunition from the Goeben. We fired one torpedo at her, and a heavy explosion took place. Our boat came to the surface and a heavy fire came from all forts. Many pieces of shrapnel hit the boat; then a large shell hit the conning tower and did a bit of damage. The captain was pleased at the moment with the behaviour of the crew, not a man moving from his station. Several shells were then heard to pass overhead, but luckily, they did not drop a depth charge. After a time, she got out of control and as we had only three bottles of air left, the captain thought it best to go to the surface. At once we could hear heavy fire from all around, and pieces hit the hull of our boat. As a result of a hit in the centre of the boat it could not dive again. We ran the gauntlet for half an hour under murderous fire from all round, only a few hitting the hull of the boat. Our wireless operator was badly wounded in the mouth and left hand, and fell unconscious, and the captain seeing it was hopeless, ran the boat towards shore. His last words were “We are in the hands of God, my men; do your best to get ashore”. A few seconds later I saw his body mangled by shell fire roll into the water and was taken under. The same shell killed the Navigator, and left me by myself, and others (shells) killed nearly all the hands.
    “Had the Turks stopped firing as soon as they saw us sinking, with a few wounded on the deck many more might have been saved. It must have been half an hour before they put out for us. And the cries of wounded men in the water; several voices were heard saying “Goodbye, goodbye all”, their hands went up and they disappeared for the last time. It was hell; when I look back to that fatal half hour it haunts me. As no boat seemed to be coming out to pick us up, we made for Kum Kale, and were picked up only a few yards from the shore. Soon after the Turks got hold of us all our clothing was taken from us, and we had to walk through Kum Kale naked. It broke our hearts when we saw only nine had been saved out of 32 officers and men. The three wounded were in a very bad state and unconscious when I saw them last.
    “On arrival at a small hut, a short pair of trousers, all patchwork was given to us to put on, which we found to be full of lice. No underclothing was given us. A small fire was made in a room, and we were very glad to get it as we were very cold; and shortly a filthy-looking Turk brought us some hot tea without milk or sugar; that is all they gave us to bring us round again. In the evening we were sent to Chanak and handed over to the Germans, and here we remained for two days. Here we were sent to a small room for the night, feeling very tired and hungry, as the crew had nothing while submerged in the Dardanelles and it was midnight when a Turk came with some black barley and maize bread, and a dish of beans boiled in olive oil, which we could not manage to eat. This was our daily meal; two meals a day and one maize loaf, and a bucket of water. During our time at Chanak many visits were paid by newspaper reporters and Germans of high rank.
    “Sleep was out of the question that night. Many questions were asked us concerning England. They were under the impression that England was in a very bad state, as the submarine menace was hitting us hard. On the following day we were sent to Constantinople, and when we arrived were taken on board a German liner, used as a German Headquarters. Here we went before a court of German and Turkish officers, one at a time, and many jokes were passed.
    “At 5.30 we were taken over to the Turks and were taken through Istanbul thinking we were going to a British Camp, but found ourselves behind prison bars, for what reason I do not know. We were housed in filthy compartments, among some of the biggest criminal prisoners in Turkey, sitting in a room with huge chains and handcuffs on.
    “The place was full of lice and bugs. We remained here two days and then went to another room with 150 of the same kind of criminals, some dying with cholera and dysentery. When we arrived, we asked for bread, which was not brought to us until 36 hours after. A man named Firuze Hanzadian an Armenian subject, brought four loaves of bread with one Turkish pound, and then gave them to us. He got a flogging for it and was not allowed to talk to us. He could speak English. He said, “I am not a rich man, but I am a man”.
    “Time went on and we were getting very bad; no clothing to cover us up at night, and nothing to lie on but the cold bare floor. We complained of the filthy rooms in which we had to eat and sleep, suffering the same punishment as the criminal offenders who were guilty. After this another room was allotted to us, which was quite as bad, the smell and stench being abominable. Owing to this fever and dysentery broke out, which eventually became so bad that two men lay weak on the floor. A doctor was asked for; he came 24 hours after, and the two men were sent to hospital. During our time in prison no bedding or any covering was given to us. Drinking water had to be obtained from the urinals. We eventually saw two British officers and told them the conditions we were living under as prisoners of war. Pressure having been brought to bear, we were sent to a British camp at Samatyra, and that consisted of a school room with 150 English (servicemen) some with arms and legs off, waiting to be exchanged. We had no fires unless we could buy our own fuel; no books, or anything to read, and hardly any food, only two meals a day and one loaf of bread. I remained in the camp two days and was sent to hospital with typhus fever and dysentery, weak as I was, I had five miles to walk, arriving almost dead and hungry. A Turk was turned out of one bed, and I was told to get in it. I refused, and was handled roughly, and given another bed, which was just as bad. The bed and clothing were full of lice, and not many hours after I was covered with vermin.
    “The following morning, I was sent to the typhus ward, and there I found one of my comrades. I was put in the next bed but one, after turning a Turk out, and getting into his clothing. I was in this ward about two weeks, and left it like a bag of bones, and my body almost black with lice bites. On three occasions the Dutch Embassy gave two ½ lb. tins of milk and a third one had to go between three Englishmen. My meals were mostly baked wheat, or spinach and that was what I pulled round on.
    “At times the Embassy used to bring us a little food, about three parcels for all the English, and you got a little tea, sugar, butter, jam, just enough for one piece of bread. What food you received from the hospital was no good. At last, we asked to be discharged and weak as we were sent to a working camp.”  
    Mitchell returned to London after being liberated at the end of the war where he was able to recuperate from his time in prison and he was awarded the Distinguished Service Medal on 12 December 1919. He returned to Australia where he married and raised three children. He passed away on 16 August 1954 aged 60.
    In a footnote to the above story LCDR Geoffrey Saxton White was posthumously awarded the Victoria Cross, gazetted on 24 May 1919 for his part in the action in the Dardanelles, which had started the day before the boat set out. He flew as a passenger on an aircraft during aerial bombing of Goeben to see her position himself and to plan his method of attack. The award of the Victoria Cross to White created a record as HMS E14 is the only vessel in the history of the Royal Navy in which two different commanding officers had been bestowed with the Cross, the other officer being LCDR Edward Courtney Boyle RN who was presented his Victoria Cross by His Majesty the King at Buckingham Palace on 1 March 1916.                               

Crew of just commissioned HMAS AE2, AB Reuben Mitchell is in the top line second from the right. 

HMS E14 seen after leaving the Dardanelles Strait in 1915 LCDR Boyle is standing at centre on the conning tower


Authors Note: Given we are on the historical topic, in hunting down information for the Harbor Master in Western Port was forwarded this collector’s item of Onslow’s General Arrangement dated 1973 from Holebrook (Morrie Jepperson). The color and detail is priceless and well worth saving blowing up and display it. It sought of looks like Ken Greenwood’s PT III Book?




The Rt. Rev’d Keith William Dalby
Bishop of The Murray

Ahoy Shipmates,
This year has been another difficult year for us as a nation, and as individuals and families. In fact, I don’t know about you but I think that this year has been harder than last year, as this year we knew what we were in for, unlike last year.
So many hopes, and disappointments. Functions to get us all together having to be cancelled, shipmates crossing the bar, and many of us not able to attend to pay our last respects.
Christmas time is both a time of great joy, but it can also be a time of great isolation, and a time of loneliness and despair. The Christmas message of Jesus as a baby in a manger is not about a baby in a manger. It is about God coming to us in our weaknesses, in our despair, in our loneliness and uniting our human nature with His nature, His divinity. He elevates us to Himself and in doing so gives us new life, new opportunities, but more importantly new hope. In a world that has been highly disruptive these past two years the birth of Jesus in a manger 2000 years ago is more relevant to us today than it has ever been.
Having served with so many of you riff raff I know that you don’t necessarily share my faith, but some of you do. However, to all of you I want you to know that you all have value and worth in the eyes of God, and the birth of Jesus 2000 years ago was the seal of that reality for God. We might reject God, but God never rejects us.
My hope and prayer is that you will all have a safe Christmas and New Year, and that if you are able to spend it with family do so, and hold them close to you. If you are not able then my prayer is that sooner rather than later you will be reunited, and in the meantime you are able to find the strength to keep on until that happy reunion.
+Keith, The Murray (AKA Frank – couldn’t help it Mate but you have been a stalwart to the Submarine Community through your Naval Career and your calling to the Church)



Married in Heaven

Everyone Does This At Christmas!


As promised, reached out to DVA Secretary and we are now in receipt of Ministerial Releases. Shall only forward the one that directly involve Submariners.
Good afternoon,
Confirming you have been added to Minister Gee’s media release distribution list.
Kind Regards,
Media Team
Communications Branch
Department of Veterans’ Affairs
 Medianet Release

The Hon Andrew Gee MP
Minister for Veterans’ Affairs
Minister for Defence Personnel
Federal Member for Calare
20 December 2021
The 2021-22 rounds of the Veteran and Community Grants and Supporting Younger Veterans Grants are now open for applications.
Minister for Veterans’ Affairs and Defence Personnel Andrew Gee said the grants deliver valuable funding to local community organisations providing activities and services that support the wellbeing of veterans and their families.
“Recent grant funding has gone to a wide variety of support programs including wellness weekends and care packages for Defence members, fishing and sporting activities and even off-road racing,” Minister Gee said.
“I recently had the opportunity to catch some waves with veterans from previous grant recipient, the Veteran Surf Project at Gerroa in New South Wales, and saw firsthand the truly remarkable positive impact it’s having for local veterans.
“Their program brings veterans together, gets them talking, gets them active and gives them something to look forward to each week. It can be literally life changing for some of those who participate.
“With this latest round of funding, I hope we can support many more groups like this.
“We want to see applications for practical projects and activities that support safe, accessible environments for veterans and their families to enable social connections and improve wellbeing.
“These grants will help improve and expand existing services, build capacity for future projects, and raise awareness of the issues facing local veterans.
“I meet regularly with many ex-service organisations and have enormous respect for the critical role they play in providing mateship, advocacy and support.”
Grants of up to $50,000 are available for local, community-based projects and activities. A small number of grants of up to $150,000 are also available for projects that deliver wellbeing support services and activities of broad scale benefit to the veteran community.
The Australian Government is investing $32 million this financial year alone in grant programs to help the many groups that provide complementary services to our veterans.
The 2021-22 grants rounds are now open online through the Community Grants Hub and close 20 January 2022. For information about how to apply for grants online, see the Community Grants Hub website:    
Minister Gee office: 0459 966 944 
DVA Media: 02 6289 6466

To view the media release click the link below
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Distributed by Medianet

This one came from left field but is worthy disseminating as there has been much discussion on the topic of Veterans Suicide and Legal Service available:

Independent legal support to participate in the Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide

Dear Greg,
Thanks for your time on the phone. I would be very pleased if you were to publicise our service in your newsletter.
Please see our website at:
You can subscribe to our newsletter via a link at the bottom of each page on the site. You can also download our service brochure, which gives the basic information about us, and factsheets from our ‘Resources’ page – including the how-to-guide on writing a submission I mentioned.
I have attached our first newsletter to this message FYI, and the link to our first newsletter is:
Defence and Veterans Legal Service Newsletter - Issue no 1 newsletter (
We have also recorded a webinar giving a bit more detail about our service. This webinar was recorded and is available on YouTube at:
Webinar: Introduction to the Defence and Veterans Legal Service (DAVLS) - YouTube
Please contact me if there is anything else I can provide.
Yours in solidarity in supporting the military community,
Nicholas Warren | Community Engagement Officer (Mon – Wed)
Defence and Veterans Legal Service
P: 02 9219 5622
Information line: 1800 33 1800 


Our National President Bob Trotter has created an All Ship All Shore. Click here to view it.

From our Brothers and Sisters in UK



The sad passing of Bob O’Grady brought us all together last week to celebrate his life and a fitting tribute by his Brother Tex. RIP Bob and may your Eternal Patrol find peace, comfort at your final port of call.


Bob Trotter
Len Carr
Ray Kemp
Dinga Bell
Darren Thompson
Peter Chegwidden
Benny Hill
Ian Prodger
Probably many more but given respective circumstances, do not want to advertise their issues. If you know of anyone doing it tough over this Festive Season, pickup the phone and make contact.





Dear SAA members,
As you know the ACT branch AGM was held last Sunday.  I am currently finalising the minutes and associated paperwork for publication however, I am pleased to advise you that your 2021-22 committee members are as follows:
President                     David Strangward
Vice President            Michael Carew
Secretary                     Peter (Stan) Nimmo
Treasurer                     Peter Knight
Committee                   Andrew Galley
Committee                   Carl Larkin
Committee                   Keith Bateman
Committee                   Warren Humphrey
Pension Officer          Vacant
Welfare Officer           Michael Washington
Public Officer              Peter Knights
Give us a break guys Mick, Sky and George added to the mix is a formidable team of great blokes and a passion that will see ACT Branch through (all Champions).

HM SUBMARINES – Those were the days.
Gotland: The Submarine from Sweden That 'Sunk' a US Navy Aircraft Carrier - 19FortyFive
American Nuke
 New Royal Australian Navy uniform keeps sailors cooler at work and safer at sea
Satellites Spot Russia's Newest Submarine Leaving for 'Combat Training' | The National Interest
AUTHORS NOTE: Before FUNNIES and you switch over to the Coxswains Store and Sewerage Tank,  , Mail Chimp is a Chump and there have been a shit tin of outstanding contributions received over the last two weeks that can’t  be included in this section (hence the requirement). Of note in the Sewerage Tank is Sandy Freeleagus Collection that is well worth reading with many of his drawings and dits that are for Submariners only and funny as.                                                                                            


Hi Ho Silver
The   Lone Ranger was ambushed and captured by an enemy Indian War 
The Indian Chief proclaims
“So, YOU are the great Lone Ranger" ...   
“In honor of the Harvest Festival, YOU will be executed in three days."  
“Before I kill you, I grant you three requests"   
“What is your FIRST request???'  
The Lone Ranger responds, 
“I'd like to speak to my horse."  
The Chief nods and Silver is brought   before the Lone Ranger who whispers in   Silver’s ear, and the horse gallops away.  
Later that evening, Silver returns with   a beautiful blonde woman on his back.   As the Indian Chief watches, the blonde enters the Lone Ranger’s tent and spends the night.   
The next morning the Indian Chief admits   he’s impressed.  
“You have a very fine and loyal horse",  
“But I will still kill you in two days."  
“What is your SECOND request???"  
The Lone Ranger again asks to speak   to his horse.  
Silver is brought to him, and he again whispers in the horse’s ear.  
As before, Silver takes off and disappears over the horizon.  
Later that evening, to the Chief’s surprise, Silver again returns,  this time with a voluptuous brunette, more attractive than the blonde.  
She enters the Lone Rangers tent   and spends the night.  
The following morning the Indian Chief   is again impressed.  
“You are indeed a man of many talents,"   "But I will still kill you tomorrow."   
“What is your LAST request ???"  
The Lone Ranger responds, “I'd like to speak to my horse,  ....  alone."  
The Chief is curious, but he agrees, and Silver is brought to   the Lone Ranger’s tent.   
Once they’re alone, the Lone Ranger grabs Silver by both ears, looks him square in the eye and says, 
"READ MY LIPS!!!!"   FOR... THE... LAST... TIME...  

NOTE: It would be remiss of me not to mention the enormous impact the CISP (Webmaster and Editor) Tim Bass has impacted on the Grot, Up Periscope State and National. And, to all our Contributors, words are not enough to express our gratitude in keeping us on depth.
From the Editor and Author (Biggles and 6) and our Families, to you and yours to those serving and who have served in our Trade, A VERRY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND LET US ALL HOPE FOR A BETTER 2022.
We are taking three weeks off but will be back bigger and better next year. I leave you with the scene from a movie that has touched us in so many ways on our time away at sea over Christmas.
What else would you have expected from me!

Shut and Clipped till next Year

Yours Aye 
Greg Jones #6
0432 559 283

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