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Welcome to the Coxswain's Grot - Issue 110.

Fellow Submariners, welcome to our next edition of the Grot. Something for everyone and enjoy the read.

ALL ROUND LOOK


Submarine Institute of Australia
   
 
New faces in the SIA Committee
Submarine Institute of Australia - 22 November 2021
 
The SIA held its 23rd AGM on 16 November (and its first completely online). Three new members were elected: John Polglaze (Secretary), Sarah Pavillard and Martin Renilson (Members). Rebecca Brickhill is the new Treasurer. The SIA welcomes new and re-elected members.
 
Vale Derrick Webster
Submarine Institute of Australia - 13 November 2021
 
The SIA regrets to advise the passing of former SIA Committee member Derrick Webster. His funeral will be held at 1500 at the ANZAC Memorial Chapel, RMC Duntroon ACT, on Tuesday 16th November 2021.
 
Submarine News
   
 
New technology vital to security
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 22 November 2021
Mondays signing of a new treaty with the US and Britain, formalising access to the allies nuclear submarine secrets, underlines the importance of state-of-the-art technology in defending the nations strategic security. The agreement, which is part of the ...
Mondays signing of a new treaty with the US and Britain, formalising access to the allies nuclear submarine secrets, underlines the importance of state-of-the-art technology in defending the nations strategic security. The agreement, which is part of the
 
 
Treaty signing opens door to subs training
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 21 November 2021
Australia will sign a treaty with the US and Britain on Monday formalising access to the allies nuclear submarine secrets under the AUKUS strategic partnership.
Australia will sign a treaty with the US and Britain on Monday formalising access to the allies nuclear submarine secrets under the AUKUS strategic partnership.
 
 
US Navy orders safety pause for entire submarine force after attack sub ran into underwater mountain in South China Sea
Business Insider Australia - 18 November 2021
Seawolf-class attack submarine USS Connecticut in the Pacific Ocean with a US Navy HH-60H Sea Hawk helicopter and aircraft carrier USS ...
, revealing only that the submarine was stable, there were no life-threatening injuries, and that the nuclear systems on board were not
 
 
NATO Submarine Rescue System cleared for use on French Navy's Loire-class support ships - Baird Maritime
Baird Maritime - 18 November 2021
The French Navy Loire-class support ship Garonne (Photo: French Navy) The NATO Submarine Rescue System (NSRS) is now certified for use on ...
Loire-class support ship Garonne (Photo: French Navy) The NATO Submarine Rescue System (NSRS) is now certified for use on the four Loire-
 
 
Submarines lead Twitter mention in the third quarter of 2021
Fuentitech - 18 November 2021
The submarine is the Navy’s top of the terms or concepts most mentioned in the Twitter discussion of more than 150 defense experts tracked ...
212CD submarine, the holographic sonar display created for submarine warfare, and the development of a new class of submarines for the Royal
 
 
Working together for a free and open Indo-Pacific region
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 18 November 2021
In recent months I have begun to see encouraging signs of a strategic framework in the Indo-Pacific despite the volatility that prevails in the region. The announcement of AUKUS was a welcome development that will be instrumental in re-establishing ...
In recent months I have begun to see encouraging signs of a strategic framework in the Indo-Pacific despite the volatility that prevails in the region. The announcement of AUKUS was a welcome development that will be instrumental in re-establishing ...
 
 
Every submarine worker is wanted to build nuclear fleet and keep Collins class afloat
Herald Sun (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 17 November 2021
Workers are not rushing to build subs for Australia, a senate hearing has been told, even though the country will ...
. Senator Patrick, a former Collins class submariner, quizzed officials about the ability of the Collins class to be modified to have “air
 
 
Navy holds groundbreaking ceremony for submarines
Worldakkam - 17 November 2021
The Navy held a groundbreaking ceremony for a prototype of a domestic submarine yesterday, a year after the start of work. The ceremony to ...
urged all parties involved in the construction of the submarine to prioritize safety and maintain confidentiality to ensure that the project
 
 
Port Douglas retiree and great nephew of Bram Stoker writes Dracula novel
NEWSPORT DAILY - 17 November 2021
Who wrote Amazon’s Dracula?
hands. In the late 1990’s the wreck of Australia’s first submarine to see military action, the AE2, was located in Turkish waters. It was
 
 
Morrison says AUKUS will strengthen cooperation on critical technologies
The Strategist - 17 November 2021
Australia’s Prime Minister Scott Morrison has used a keynote address at ASPI’s Sydney Dialogue to add important detail to what’s known ...
strategic centre of gravity. The agreement is about much more than nuclear submarines, Morrison says. ‘AUKUS will see Australia, the United
 
 
Should Canberra rush to mend ties with Paris?
Defence Connect - 17 November 2021
Australia must repair its fractured relationship with France to avoid leaving itself vulnerable to great-power tactics in the diplomatic ...
Commonwealth government’s decision to axe French contractor Naval Group’s Future Submarines contract in favour of a new trilateral security
 
 
Nuclear subs to pack global punch
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 16 November 2021
Australias planned nuclear submarines will expand the nations military reach to the limits of the Indian and Pacific oceans, former US Info-Pacific commander Harry Harris says.
Australias planned nuclear submarines will expand the nations military reach to the limits of the Indian and Pacific oceans, former US Info-Pacific commander Harry Harris says.
 
 
Submarine taskforce mulls ‘son of Collins’ before nuclear boats arrive
The Australian Financial Review - 16 November 2021
Defence officials are weighing up whether Australia will need a new conventional submarine to avoid a capability gap while the navy waits for a fleet of nuclear-powered boats to be delivered. This could include building an updated version of the navy’s ...
Defence officials are weighing up whether Australia will need a new conventional submarine to avoid a capability gap while the navy waits for a fleet of nuclear-powered boats to be delivered. This could include building an updated version of the navy’s ..
 
 
AUKUS partners must play catch-up to repair relations with France
The Strategist - 16 November 2021
Prime Minister Scott Morrison is embroiled in a tussle with both French President Emmanuel Macron and US President Joe Biden which, given ...
$90 billion Attack-class deal was being scuttled in favour of nuclear-powered submarines from either the UK or the US. The officials
 
 
Is Australia relevant?
Lowy Institute for International Policy - 15 November 2021
Neighbours in Southeast Asia may not be “forced to choose” but rather “left behind”.
Australia with United Kingdom and United States support to obtain nuclear submarines, and the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue, or “Quad”.
 
 
Perth to be recognised for undersea tech work
Asia Pacific Defence Reporter - 15 November 2021
Perth is on track to become a regional powerhouse in undersea technology – including designing and building autonomous underwater vessels ...
recently WA Agent General), Mike Deeks as Group Managing Director, with the former head of Australia’s submarine forces confident that Perth
 
 
Nuclear subs can arrive much earlier than 2040, US ex-commander says
The Australian Financial Review - 15 November 2021
Australia should be able to acquire nuclear submarines much earlier than a mooted 2040 delivery date, easing fears of a capability gap, according to a former top US military commander with responsibility for the Indo-Pacific. Retired US admiral and ...
Australia should be able to acquire nuclear submarines much earlier than a mooted 2040 delivery date, easing fears of a capability gap, according to a former top US military commander with responsibility for the Indo-Pacific. Retired US admiral and ...
 
 
N-subs – the rebirth of ASC as BAE Systems Adelaide
@AuManufacturing - 15 November 2021
By Peter Roberts
. Sandwiched between the two is ASC, which built the Collins class submarines and was recently confirmed as the site for deep maintenance
 
 
US nuclear sub 'may have hit an oil rig' in South China Sea
South China Morning Post - Online - 13 November 2021
US nuclear sub 'may have hit an oil rig' in South China Sea
at this depth and damaged the integrated sonar array – which would not be fatal to the submarine – the submarine would be unable to navigate
 
 
An Overview of the Development and Operations of the Osborne Naval Shipyard
Stay Happening - 12 November 2021
Advertisement About this Event You are invited to join the RINA SA/NT Section for a presentation on the development and operations of ...
Osborne Naval Shipyard is integral for future programs such as the Hunter Class Frigate and future Submarine projects. Advertisement Event
 
 
Navy completes submarine search and rescue exercise
Australian Defence Magazine - 12 November 2021
The Royal Australian Navy has successfully completed its annual submarine search and rescue exercise off the coast of Western Australia ...
“As part of Exercise Black Carillon we have demonstrated the capability to perform search and rescue for our own submarines as well as other
 
 
Australia's new nuclear-powered subs are decades away, but it's already hinting about where it will use them
Business Insider Australia - 11 November 2021
Royal Australian Navy Collins-class submarine HMAS Rankin north of Darwin during an exercise, September 5, 2021. Royal Australian Navy/POIS ...
Australia. Much about the submarine initiative remains undetermined, however. US sailors load an MK-48 inert training torpedo onto Virginia-
 
 
New escape system could be difference between life and death for sunken submariners
DNYUZ - 11 November 2021
A new submarine escape system could make the difference between life and death for sailors trapped underwater, the Royal Navy has revealed.
for sailors trapped underwater, the Royal Navy has revealed. The Nato Submarine Rescue System (NSRS), jointly owned by the UK, France and
 
 
DSME Launched New Auxiliary Submarine Rescue Ship ASR-II for ROK Navy
Naval News - 11 November 2021
South Korean shipbuilder DSME last month launched a 5,600 t next-generation auxiliary submarine rescue ship (ASR-II). ROKS Gangwha-do was ...
laying was held in 2020. The ship aims to complete auxiliary submarine rescue ship ‘Cheonghaejin’ capabilities. The ship will first undergo
 
 
Collins LOTE to follow Attack class path
Australian Defence Magazine - 11 November 2021
Had they eventuated, the Attack-class submarines would have been larger and looked different to the Collins submarines - but they would ...
, executive director of the Collins LOTE program told the Submarine Institute of Australia conference in Adelaide this week that when LOTE
 
 
Royal Navy and French Navy combine to test new support ship
Royal Navy - 11 November 2021
One of Britain’s biggest warships was towed through the Channel to help the French test the power of a new specialist ship.
out intensive trials and training to prove her ability to work with NATO’s Submarine Rescue System (NSRS). The jointly owned UK, French and
 
 
Is the nuclear subs plan a ‘pipedream’?
Defence Connect - 11 November 2021
Has Australia bitten off more than it can chew with its latest submarine procurement strategy under AUKUS?
already struggles to crew its Collins Class submarines, which need up to 50 people aboard. The US Fast Attack submarines require crews of
 
 
Nuclear submarines’ not-so-secret mission: ‘project power’
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 10 November 2021
Australias top diplomat in Washington has offered the frankest public explanation yet of the governments decision to purchase nuclear submarines, saying the nation needs to project power further north into Asia rather than simply protect the Australian ...
Australias top diplomat in Washington has offered the frankest public explanation yet of the governments decision to purchase nuclear submarines, saying the nation needs to project power further north into Asia rather than simply protect the Australian ..
 
 
‘It would make a cat laugh’: key moments from Paul Keating’s National Press Club appearance
Australia News - The Guardian - 10 November 2021
The former prime minister denounces nuclear-powered submarines plan and says Australians are being led astray on China
. But the whole point of these hunter-killer submarines is to round up the Chinese nuclear submarines and keep them in the shallow waters of
 
 
It’s AUKUS, not A(UK)US
The Strategist - 10 November 2021
Perhaps my ticklish British sensibilities are getting the better of me, but I’ve noticed a creeping tendency in the Australian debate to ...
of their longstanding preference for the Virginia class to meet Australia’s future submarine requirement. Granted, the void of official
 
 
Lack of Local Skills Will Impact Nuclear Submarine Manufacture
The National Tribune - 10 November 2021
Weld Australia By Geoff Crittenden (CEO, Weld Australia) On 16 September, Prime Minister Scott Morrison announced that Australia would no ...
they’re ready to captain submarines when construction is complete. Australia already struggles to crew its Collins Class submarines, which
 
 
Australia won’t buy nuclear submarines from US, UK: Arthur Sinodinos
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 10 November 2021
US Ambassador Arthur Sinodinos has ruled out buying nuclear submarines built mainly in the US or UK, suggesting the vast bulk of the new fleet promised under the AUKUS security pact would be built in South Australia.
US Ambassador Arthur Sinodinos has ruled out buying nuclear submarines built mainly in the US or UK, suggesting the vast bulk of the new fleet promised under the AUKUS security pact would be built in South Australia.
 
 
Indian Navy takes delivery of its fourth Scorpene-class submarine, to be commissioned as INS Vela
Frontline - 10 November 2021
The Indian Navy has taken possession of its fourth conventional diesel-electric powered, air-independent propulsion (AIP) system attack ...
conventional diesel-electric powered, air-independent propulsion (AIP) system attack submarine of the Kalvari class. Based on the French-
 
 
Why nuclear power for Australia is just a grand fantasy
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 10 November 2021
One result of more ambitious emissions-reduction targets from the Glasgow climate conference will be rising support for nuclear power, but its champions in Australia need to start talking to the people who will decide this issue the Labor Party, the ...
One result of more ambitious emissions-reduction targets from the Glasgow climate conference will be rising support for nuclear power, but its champions in Australia need to start talking to the people who will decide this issue the Labor Party, the ...
 
 
Homegrown undersea technology
4BC - 9 November 2021
The AUKUS alliance has been a hot topic of conversation. John Stanley chats with Executive Director David Nicholls from Submarine Institute ...
Director David Nicholls from Submarine Institute of Australia. At the start of this week, the Submarine Institute of Australia (SIA)
 
 
Skills capability gap, jobs questioned as Australia's ability to build nuclear submarine fleet discussed at major industry conference
Player FM - 9 November 2021
Defence Industry Minister Melissa Price has told a major industry conference Australia's future nuclear submarines will be built in South ...
Minister Melissa Price has told a major industry conference Australia's future nuclear submarines will be built in South Australia but Labor
 
 
The Morrison government is ‘sinking’ the AUKUS submarine deal | The Australian
The Australian (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 9 November 2021
The Australian’s Foreign Editor Greg Sheridan says he believes the Morrison government is “sinking” the AUKUS nuclear submarine deal. Mr Sheridan told Sky News host Peta Credlin the submarines will not be ready “in a relevant timeframe” if the ...
The Australian’s Foreign Editor Greg Sheridan says he believes the Morrison government is “sinking” the AUKUS nuclear submarine deal. Mr Sheridan told Sky News host Peta Credlin the submarines will not be ready “in a relevant timeframe” if the ...
 
 
Collins Sub hull fatigue studies show LOTE promise
Australian Defence Business Review - 9 November 2021
The Royal Australian Navy officer overseeing the planned Collins submarines Life-Of-Type Extension (LOTE) program says hull fatigue studies ...
. “That was pretty much a deal breaker,” he told the Submarine Institute of Australia (SIA) conference in Adelaide on November 9. “If the
 
 
Leading forum on submarines commences
Australian Defence Magazine - 9 November 2021
Indo-Pacific’s leading forum on submarines – the annual Submarine Institute of Australia (SIA) conference – has commenced today at ...
Indo-Pacific’s leading forum on submarines – the annual Submarine Institute of Australia (SIA) conference – has commenced today at the
 
 
Labor claims submarine plan has ‘no credibility’ as it warns of capability gap
Brisbane Times (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 9 November 2021
Politics Federal Defence Labor’s defence spokesman Brendan O’Connor will raise the alarm on a looming capability ...
has to date failed to answer,” Mr O’Connor will tell the Submarine Institute of Australia conference, according to a draft of the speech. “
 
 
Defence Industry Minister Melissa Price flags funded uni to train subs workers up for nuclear
Herald Sun (Licensed by Copyright Agency) - 8 November 2021
Adelaide shipbuilders could be sent to uni to get nuclear skills, as Labor compares the axing of the Attack subs ...
major industry leaders and navy officials at the sixth Submarine Science, Technology and Engineering conference in Adelaide on Tuesday. In a
 

All Things Collins

WATCH 🎥⬇️ #ExBlackCarillion takes place annually off the Western Australian coast. It is #AusNavy’s certification exercise for the capability of its deployable Submarine Abandonment, Escape, and Rescue (SAER).
SAER capability is based around a submersible vessel that can be deployed along with a decompression chamber by road or air to the nearest port to a disabled submarine.
The equipment is then dispatched by the nearest available vessel and transported to the location of the submarine.

HMS UPHOLDER IN ACTION
 
    Some of the fiercest sea and air fighting of the World War Two took place in and over the Mediterranean. Malta, strategically positioned between Europe and Africa, was the linchpin of much of the planning on both sides, and it was from Malta that the young men of the 10th Submarine Flotilla set out to put a spanner in the Axis works.
    Early 1941 saw Malta’s tribulations increasing in direct proportion to her strategic significance. The newly arrived German X Fliegerkorps was taking over the Regia Aeronautica the task of reducing the island fortress to impotence and, despite the devoted efforts of the weary and supply-starved defenders, a permanent dust cloud hung over Valletta and its rubble-choked streets. Its magnificent and rambling Grand Harbour was virtually devoid of warships but, even so, the Royal Navy could not countenance falling back on the relative safety of Gibraltar and Alexandria, for these were critical times in the sea war.
    Following their successes against the Italians in North Africa, British land forces were being transferred in large numbers to fight the abortive campaigns of Greece and Crete. At the same time, however, Rommel’s Afrika Korps and its equipment were being shipped to North Africa in a continuous flow of convoys. Malta was well placed both to interdict these and to assist in the covering of the British troop movements. The Luftwaffe’s roll was to prevent this and it had succeeded to the point where the Royal Navy’s surface ships had been obliged, temporary, to leave and the RAF’s airfields had been reduced to a state unfit to service and operate strike aircraft. For the while, Malta’s offensive capacity devolved largely upon her submarines.
It was into this cockpit that LCDR David Wanklyn RN brought HMS Upholder. Not yet 30 years of age Wanklyn had already commanded two old ‘H’ class boats in home waters before standing by his new submarine as it took shape on a Vickers’ slip during 1940. He was to be her first and only commanding officer.
    January 1941 saw Upholder join a mixed bag of boats working out of Lazaretto Creek, the old Quarantine Harbour distanced by the Valletta Peninsula from the bustle of the Grand Harbour. Under the command of Captain George W.G. “Shrimp” Simpson                                                                   
LCDR David Wanklyn and his wardroom officers in Malta.       
 
RN, they were to be officially organized into the 10th Submarine Flotilla.
    On 24 January, following voyage repairs, Upholder sailed on her first combat patrol, accompanying three other boats. In pre-dawn blackness two days later, the little boat was lying on the surface awaiting the source of propeller noises heard clearly over the asdic (sonar). Sure enough, the vague shapes of three southbound merchantmen and their single escort reluctantly detached themselves from the deep gloom. Wanklyn loosed a full spread of four torpedoes. All missed, the enemy sailing serenely on, oblivious of their assailant. Chagrined, Upholder’s crew reloaded and sweated out the day on the bottom. Torpedoes in Malta were like summer snow and their wastage was not popular. With darkness came the welcome order to surface, to recharge batteries and refresh the boat’s foul atmosphere. She was astride the main Trapani-Tripoli route and targets abounded; unfortunately, a group of three passing merchantmen were northbound in ballast and the remaining four torpedoes were conserved for loaded targets.
    
HMS/m Upholder on the surface, painted by Ray Agius.
 
Before dawn on the following morning came a chance with two heavily laden targets trundling south over a calm sea. Two shots produce Upholder’s first hit: the 4,000-tonner settled slowly by the bows as her companion bore on. Wanklyn was determined to verify a kill but, not daring to surface in daylight to use his deck gun yet unwilling to sacrifice a further torpedo, hung around for hours until the reluctant victim plunged quietly and without fuss.
    It was 48 hours later that the final two torpedoes were expended against a single escorted target. One hit was scored, which did not prove fatal, and the submarine was soundly and accurately depth charged. By a combination of silent routine and frequent changes of both course and depth, Wanklyn successfully disengaged, the destroyer giving up to succour her injured charge. 
    Still very much at the learning stage, the submarine entered a lean spell and was not until the end of April that her score was boosted with a 5,500-tonner. Anxious to do better, Wanklyn nearly stranded the boat in destroying a loaded freighter abandoned on the Kerkenah Bank.
    This was a time of little respite for the Malta boats, who lost two of their number in May. On 25 May, Upholder was in quiet conditions east of Sicily, having disposed of a 5,000-ton freighter in the Messina Strait during the day before, when hydrophone effect prompted a periscope check. What Wanklyn saw was a submariner’s dream: four southbound liners, packed with troops. Unfortunately, they were accompanied by an alert escort of five destroyers and Upholder was down to her last two torpedoes. Both had to count, and an attacking position had to be achieved rapidly. Concentrating hard, Wanklyn was surprised by the urgent beat of an escort at close quarters. Only by an immediate flooding of ‘Q’ tank was the submarine able to gain sufficient depth to avoid being struck. Levelling out at 24 metres (80ft) the fugitives were grateful to discover that they had not, in fact, been detected. Time, however, had been lost and the boat was back at periscope depth immediately; both torpedoes were loosed at a two-funnelled ship as Upholder again plummeted and changed course. Skippers who survived never dallied to observe results! Two explosions were clearly audible at the appointed time, but the escort ran down the torpedo tracks and heavily depth-charged the release area. Upholder was still perilously close to this point but, resisting the temptation to break into a noisy gallop, Wanklyn slowly put distance between himself and what was an uncoordinated assault.
    Reaching Malta without damage, he discovered that he had despatched the liner SS Conte Rosso (17,879 grt). Of the 2,500 troops aboard, over 800 perished; the remainder of the convoy promptly reversed course. For his coolness and achievement, Wanklyn was awarded the Victoria Cross. He, his crew and his boat were now a formidable combination.
    By June the 10th Flotilla comprised nine ‘U’ class boats, with other excellent reputations being made by such as HMS Urge, HMS Unique and HMS Unbeaten. Bigger boats worked out of Gibraltar and Alexandria, but for the ‘U’ Class boats the war began on their doorstep and they rarely returned without the Jolly Roger at the periscope head.
    On 28 July 1941, near Marittimo, Upholder put two torpedoes into the cruiser RN Garibaldi, without, however, sinking her. A month later, on 22 August as she was picking off a 4,000-tonner from a convoy, Unique was sinking the 11,400-ton SS Esperia, a survivor of the earlier troop convoy. Shortly after, on her 14th patrol, Upholder was part of a submarine line off Tripoli, a trap to intercept three more large troopships. In the early hours of 18 September, surfaced with the casing awash, she received warning of the convoy’s approach from Unbeaten, the next in line. With the Italians having no radar, it was possible to remain surfaced, with the sound gear giving a rough bearing. Vague shadows, barely separable from the general gloom, the enemy duly appeared, moving fast. Long prepared, Wanklyn fired three torpedoes at an estimated 4,570 metres (5,000 yards) and dived fast. Men mentally counted off the seconds until a muffled thud released held breath. Smiles erupted into cheers when, immediately afterward, two more explosions were heard. A full house! Still there came no counterattack and a cautious peep with the periscope was made as the crew wrestled and cursed silently in the task of reloading. Destroyers appeared to be engaged in rescuing survivors while the stationary bulk of a liner loomed nearby. Dawn confirmed the situation, with the added problem of a destroyer circling protectively but as yet blindly. Of the third liner there was no sign. Though once forced down by the escort, Upholder was worked slowly, patiently, into an attack position and, as the morning sun shone yellow on it plates, the immobilized trooper was lifted by the simultaneous eruption of torpedoes. As though weary of further struggle she quietly slid under. Upholder had disposed of the 19,500-ton sisters MS Neptunia and MS Oceania. The third ship, MS Vulcania, evaded an attack by HMS Ursula to make Tripoli safely.
    Though now credited with over 100,000 grt sunk, the boat was now to experience two totally uneventful patrols. In early November 1941, however, an improvement in the situation in Malta allowed the surface ships of Force K to operate for a while. They totally destroyed one convoy, together with an escort, and while Upholder (ever the opportunist) encountered the aftermath and added a further destroyer, RN Libeccio, to the list. Rommel, now desperate for supplies, pressured the Italians to the point where warships were used as transports. Upholder encountered and despatched in a mighty detonation, the petrol-laden Italian submarine RSmg St Bon.
    Following a necessary spell ashore in early 1942, Wanklyn re-joined his command and sank a second submarine, RSmg Tricheco, in the Strait of Otranto, heavy weather then frustrating an attack on enemy capital ships.
    On 6 April 1942 Upholder sailed on her 25th patrol. She landed an agent ashore and transferred another to Unbeaten before proceeding to her usual patch off Tripoli, she was never seen again. Other boats in the area heard a prolonged depth charge attack and the Italians credited their destroyer RN Pegaso with a positive kill. Wanklyn and his dedicated crew had made their last contribution to the unremitting blockade that was to guarantee the defeat of the Afrika Korps in the battles around El Alamein only six months later.
 

LCDR Wanklyn bearded officer on the bridge points a position out while underway in Malta
 
    The above story is from “War Machine” Volume 9 – Issue 102, published by Orbis Publishing Ltd 1985. Author not recognized.
    From the book “Seedie’s List of Submarine Awards for World War 11”, he records that the London Gazette of 16 December 1941. - Mediterranean War Patrols from May to October 1941, with HM Ships Unbeaten, Upright and Ursula, torpedoed three large escorted Italian transports off Tripoli on 18 September 1941. HMS Upholder sank the Neptunia and Oceania. Malcolm David Wanklyn, Lieutenant Commander RN was awarded the Victoria Cross which was presented along with the Distinguished Service Order and two Bars at an investiture to his next of kin by His Majesty the King.  Wanklyn’s Victoria Cross and medals are not publicly held.     
              
Crew of Upholder in Malta with PO Gordon Selby standing behind sailor with cap and submarine jumper on.                                                         
 
 
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Subject: Toyota Warns (Again) About Electrifying All Autos. 

 
 A bit of a read - to look at a practical view from a major player in the industry, well worth the effort.
 Toyota Warns (Again) About Electrifying All Autos. Very interesting!
 
Finally, a little bit of common sense into this argument! Depending on how and when you count, Japans Toyota is the worlds largest automaker.  According to Wheels, Toyota and Volkswagen vie for the title of the worlds  largest, with each taking the crown from the other as the market moves.  Thats including Volkswagens inherent advantage of sporting 12 brands versus Toyotas four. Audi, Lamborghini, Porsche, Bugatti, and Bentley are included in the Volkswagen brand family.
 
GM,  Americas largest automaker, is about half Toyotas size thanks to its 2009  bankruptcy and restructuring. Toyota is actually a major car manufacturer in the United States; in 2016 it made about 81% of the cars it sold in the U.S. right here in its nearly half a dozen American plants. If youre driving a Tundra, RAV4, Camry, or Corolla it was probably American-made in a red state. Toyota was among the first to introduce gas-electric hybrid cars into the market, with the Prius twenty years ago. It hasnt been afraid to change the car game.
 
All of this is to point out that Toyota understands both the car market and the infrastructure that supports it perhaps better than any other manufacturer on the planet. It hasnt grown its footprint through acquisitions as Volkswagen has, and it hasnt undergone bankruptcy and bailout as GM has. Toyota has grown by building reliable cars for decades.
 
When Toyota offers an opinion on the car market, its probably worth listening to. This week, Toyota reiterated an opinion it has offered before. That opinion is straightforward:
 
 
 
The world is not yet ready to support a fully electric auto fleet.
 
Toyotas head of energy and environmental research Robert Wimmer testified before the Senate this week, and said: If we are to make dramatic progress in electrification, it will require overcoming tremendous challenges, including refuelling infrastructure, battery availability, consumer acceptance, and affordability.
 
Wimmers remarks come on the heels of GMs announcement that it will phase out all gas internal combustion engines (ICE) by 2035. Other manufacturers, including Mini, have followed suit with similar announcements.
 
Tellingly, both Toyota and Honda have so far declined to make any such promises. Honda is the worlds largest engine manufacturer when you take its boat, motorcycle, lawnmower, and other engines it makes outside the auto market into account. Honda competes in those markets with Briggs & Stratton and the increased electrification of lawnmowers, weed trimmers, and the like.
 
Wimmer noted that while manufactures have announced ambitious goals, just 2% of the worlds cars are electric at this point. For price, range, infrastructure, affordability, and other reasons, buyers continue to choose ICE over electric, and thats even when electric engines are often subsidized with tax breaks to bring price tags down.\
 
The scale of the c hasnt even been introduced into the conversation in any systematic way yet. According to Finances Online, there are 289.5 million cars just on U.S. roads as of 2021. About 98 percent of them are gas-powered. Toyotas RAV4 took the top spot for purchases in the U.S. market in 2019, with Hondas CR-V in second. GMs top seller, the Chevy Equinox, comes in at #4 behind the Nissan Rogue. This is in the U.S. market, mind. GM only has one entry in the top 15 in the U.S. Toyota and Honda dominate, with a handful each in the top 15.
 
Toyota warns that the grid and infrastructure simply arent there to support the electrification of the private car fleet. A 2017 U.S. government study found that we would need about 8,500 strategically-placed charge stations to support a fleet of just 7 million electric cars. Thats about six times the current number of electric cars but no one is talking about supporting just 7 million cars. We should be talking about powering about 300 million within the next 20 years, if all manufacturers follow GM and stop making ICE cars.
 
 
 
Simply put, were going to need a bigger energy boat to deal with connecting all those cars to the power grids. A LOT bigger.
 
But instead of building a bigger boat, we may be shrinking the boat we have now. The power outages in California and Texas the largest U.S. states by population and by car ownership exposed issues with powering needs even at current usage levels. Increasing usage of wind and solar, neither of which can be throttled to meet demand, and both of which prove unreliable in crisis, has driven some coal and natural gas generators offline. Wind simply runs counter to needs it generates too much power when we tend not to need it, and generates too little when we need more. The storage capacity to account for this doesnt exist yet.
 
We will need much more generation capacity to power about 300 million cars if were all going to be forced to drive electric cars. Whether were charging them at home or charging them on the road, we will be charging them frequently. Every gas station you see on the roadside today will have to be wired to charge electric cars, and charge speeds will have to be greatly increased. Current technology enables charges in as little as 30 minutes, according to Kelly Blue Book. That best-case-scenario fast charging cannot be done on home power. It uses direct current and specialized systems. Charging at home on alternating current can take a few hours to overnight to fill the battery, and will increase the home power bill. That power, like all electricity in the United States, comes from generators using natural gas, petroleum, coal, nuclear, wind, solar, or hydroelectric power according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. I left out biomass because, despite Austin, Texas experiment with purchasing a biomass plant to help power the city, biomass is proving to be irrelevant in the grand energy scheme thus far. Austin didn't even turn on its biomass plant during the    recent freeze.
 
Half an hour is an unacceptably long time to spend at an electron pump. Its about 5 to 10 times longer than a current trip to the gas pump tends to take when pumps can push 4 to 5 gallons into your tank per minute. That's for consumer cars, not big rigs that have much larger tanks. Imagine the lines that would form at the pump, every day, all the time, if a single charge time isn't reduced by 70 to 80 percent. We can expect improvements, but those wont come without cost. Nothing does. There is no free lunch. Electrifying the auto fleet will require a massive overhaul of the power grid and an enormous increase in power generation. Elon Musk recently said we might need double the amount of power were currently generating if we go electric. Hes not saying this from a position of opposing electric cars. His Tesla dominates that market and he presumably wants to sell even more of them.
 
Toyota isnt saying none of this can be done, by the way. Its just saying that so far, the conversation isn't anywhere near serious enough to get things done.
 

Around the Traps


Received from Sandy (Hi Rob) F in line with Smudges post last fortnight:
 
Hi #6
Ref last issue the dipstick not reaching the oil:
It appears that during the Second World War after the Germans overran France, they naturally took control of major industries.
One such unit was the Renault motor industry which they utilised to manufacture vehicles for the German army.  Contrary to common belief, the German army was no where fully mechanised and had numerous horse drawn units (even at the end of the war) so this influx ot extra vehicles was readily accepted.
So the Renault vehicle division was not all that happy with this arrangement and looked for a way to covertly sabotage their vehicles.  Their answer: etch in the FULL location on the dipsticks of their engines a good inch lower than normal.  It was unobtrusive - and it worked.
Sandy

In light of recent events...

Legendary quotes on France :

' France has neither winter nor summer nor morals. Apart from these

drawbacks it is a fine country. France has usually been governed by prostitutes.'

Mark Twain

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'I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me.'

General George S. Patton

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'Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion.'

Norman Schwarzkopf

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'We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it.'

Marge Simpson

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'As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.'

Jacques Chirac, President of France

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'The only time France wants us to go to war is when the German Army is sitting in Paris sipping coffee.'

Regis Philbin

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'The last time the French asked for 'more proof' it came marching into Paris under a German flag.'

David Letterman

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'War without France would be like .. World War II.'

Unknown

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'What do you expect from a culture and a nation that exerted more of its

national will fighting against Disney World and Big Macs than the Nazis?'

Dennis Miller

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'It is important to remember that the French have always been there when they needed us.'

Alan Kent

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'Somebody was telling me about the French Army rifle that was being advertised on eBay the other day –

- the description was, 'Never shot. Dropped once.''

Rep. Roy Blunt, MO

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Q. What did the mayor of Paris say to the German Army as they entered the city in WWII?

A. Table for 100,000 m'sieur?

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'Do you know how many Frenchmen it takes to defend Paris ? It's not known, it's never been tried.'

Rep. R. Blount, MO

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THE UNKNOWN SAILOR

History will be made on Friday 19 November 2021 when the 80 year old mystery of the identity of the HMAS Sydney (II) “unknown sailor” is resolved.

The body of the “Unknown Sailor” was the only one recovered from Sydney after it was sunk off the West Australian coast with the loss of 645 lives in 1941.
 
An announcement of the sailor’s identity will be made by a government minister on Friday and the Australian War Memorial (AWM) will commemorate the 80th anniversary of the loss of Sydney with a special Last Post Ceremony.
 
The Last Post Ceremony at the AWM will commence at 4.45 pm in the Memorial’s Commemorative Area and will be livestreamed to an online audience. The ceremony will conclude at approximately 5.15 pm.
 
Although capacity in the Commemorative Area is limited, individuals are able to attend in person. Tickets can be booked on the Memorial’s website.
 
To view the live streamed ceremony the link below will enable you to connect to the AWM’s YouTube channel.
Link
 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKmio2JTTLpxC3gniK1f2IA

For further information, e-mail the AWM, lastpostceremony@awm.gov.au.
 
 Thomas Welsby Clark has been identified as Australia's famous 'unknown sailor'

Thomas Welsby Clark, 20, joined the HMAS Sydney just four months before it was ambushed by a German raider in the Indian Ocean in 1941.

 

ETERNAL PATROL

 
RIP
 
Vale CDR Derrick Webster RAN
 
THE SUBMARINER’S PRAYER

O Father, Hear our prayer to thee
For your humble servants
Beneath the sea

In the depths of oceans, as oft they stray
So far from night, so far from day
We would ask your guiding light to glow
To make their journey safe below

Please oft times grant them patient mind
Then ‘ere the darkness won’t them blind
They seek thy protection from the deep
Please grant them peace when ‘ere they sleep

Of their homes and loved ones far away
We ask you care for them each day
Until they surface once again
To drink the air and feel the rain

We ask your guiding hand to show
A safe progression sure and slow.
Dear Lord, please hear our prayer to thee,
For your humble servants
Beneath the sea.


Amen
Picture
Graphic by Mario Cicivelli  - Defence Publishing Services
 
The Naval Ode

They have no grave but the cruel sea,
No flowers lay at their head.
A rusting hulk is their tombstone,
Afast on the ocean bed.
They shall grow not old, as we who are left grow old.
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun, and in the morning.......
We shall remember them.

" Lest we Forget "



 

DVA MATTERS

 
The following received from Ray Kemp OAM JP, Level 3 Advocate
 
Hi 6 for next log
 
Can you receive a war widows pension along with Service/Age pension.
 
After my update on widows. I was asked the above question, the answer is no. Please read at following link.

https://www.dva.gov.au/financial-support/support-families/service-pension-partners
 
Good Afternoon ladies and gentlemen 
 
After a fair bit of deep thinking I have made the decision that as of the 1st January 2022 I will only be taking on new clients for appeals only. I have somewhere in the vicinity of 200 claims to be processed by DVA with some stretching back to Jan 2020 which still haven’t been allocated a delegate. At this rate I should have work until around 2024 for primary claims. I will still be the NAA member on the OWP (however I believe DVA are getting rid of it), The SA regional mentor for RIG3 and also a trainer and assessor  for ATDP (subject to DVA sorting this out).
 
You may wonder why I’m taking this step mainly it is due to health reasons my knee replacement is giving me hell, however the last 2 weeks I have taken a rest from advocacy and it hasn’t been as painful. The pain is starting to play with my head and therefore I can’t give 100% to being an advocate. The second reason is the fact that DVA are trying to dismantle the  training and assessing for ATDP.
 
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FROM THE RECTORY

 
Bishop Keith (Frank) Dalby has been deep and quiet for a few weeks so I thought I would submit in lieu of his post by what has been happening in the Diocese (Murray Region) without his knowledge:
 
GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER
 A man met a beautiful blonde lady and after a short courtship asked her to marry him.
 She said, 'But we don't know anything about each other.'
 He said, 'That's all right, we'll learn about each other as we go along.'
 So she consented, they were married, and off they went on a honeymoon at a resort.
 
One morning they were lying by the pool, when he got up off of his towel, climbed up to the 
10 metre board and did a two and a half tuck, followed by three rotations in the pike position, 
at which point he straightened out and cut the water like a knife.
 
After a few more demonstrations, he came back and lay down on the towel.
She said, 'That was incredible!'
He said, 'I  used to be an Olympic diving champion.
You see, I told you we'd learn more about each other as we went along.'
 
So she got up, jumped in the pool and started doing laps.
After seventy-five laps she climbed out of the pool, lay down on her towel and was hardly out of breath
He said, 'That was incredible!  Were you an Olympic endurance swimmer?'
'No,' she said, 'I was a prostitute in Mildura, but I worked both sides of the Murray !!!
Keeping that in mind, a few from the Bible bloopers attached at the unabridged version of the Old Testament:
 
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HMAS OTAMA

 
I fell off my perch when I read this (Courtesy Harbor Master Western Port) and despite the Grot giving the Custodian (for want of a better word) every opportunity to respond, comes out with this unadulterated BS which makes me wonder why Hastings Village have never looked to him as their IDIOT:
 
From Mornington Peninsula Newsletter:
 
THE Save Westernport group is concerned about an environmental catastrophe posed by the possible sinking of the ex-HMAS Otama which has been lying idle near Crib Point jetty for several months.
The group recently wrote to Nepean MP Chris Brayne and Hastings MP Neale Burgess saying the sub is “damaged and liable to sink without the continual pumping out of water which is taking place on a 24-hour basis”.
It said details of the pumping were contained in a letter from Parks Victoria dated 2 July, it said.
“As you are no doubt aware the ex-HMAS Otama is carrying 457 tonnes of lead sulphuric acid batteries containing 33,600 litres of sulphuric acid as well as 1000 litres of hydraulic oil,” the group told the MPs.
“Should the sub sink, your constituents will not be happy. It threatens to undo all the great work Save Westernport and the Western Port community did to protect the unique and rich ecosystems of Western Port from AGL’s FSRU proposal.
“On four occasions since June, Parks Victoria has issued the sub’s owners, the Western Port Oberon Association, Direction to Move notices – on 27 June, 2 July, 14 August and 2 October.
“Again, the Direction to Move notice has been ignored by the association. October 2 has passed and the hazardous submarine remains anchored at Crib Point.”
Save Westernport president Candy van Rood said since July it had raised its concerns with Ports and Freight, Fishing and Boating minister Melissa Horne, and Environment minister Lily D’Ambrosio, as well as Parks Victoria and the Department of Environment Lands Water and Planning. “They all assured us that the Western Port waterway’s safety, and protection of the environment, are their priorities,” she said. “This has proven to be all talk and no action.”
The group urged the MPs to “stop the procrastination currently taking place by various stakeholders and do everything within your power to avert this threat which would have devastating impacts on Western Port Bay”.
The Western Port Oberon Association’s Max Bryant said he was awaiting approval from Mornington Peninsula Shire on plans to bring the 1978 sub ashore on industrial-size rubber rollers hauled by bulldozers or winches. The $450,000 cost includes setting it up as a marine tourist attraction.
Mr Bryant denied the sub was leaking and needing to be pumped at all. He said water which entered the ballast tanks during June storms had been pumped out and none had re-entered. (“Otama listing, at risk of capsizing or sinking” The News 24/6/21).
“They’ve [Save Westernport] been given the wrong information,” he said.
“The water did get into the ballast tanks, which are outside the vessel, when it was being righted [in June], but there’s not one drop on board.”
Mr Bryant said the association did not have environmental damage insurance and he was unsure whether it had public liability insurance.
Lets hope, that the supporters of this once sound but failed project fall on their swords and agree that ballast tanks are actually part of a Submarine not a floatation device.
 
Interview with RADM Briggs:
 
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/calls-for-australia-to-build-conventional-submarines/13622838
 

SICK PARADE

 
Not sure how to attack this one but received last night from Bob O’Grady’s Partner and his Brother Tex. Totally inappropriate that we post his photo from FB but an update as follows:
Nov 24
Bob has been on life support since 1/11/21 after his op. Slowly taking him off the machines thru his mouth and after 3 weeks, now breathing with help thru his tracheotomy. Things are moving very slowly but baby steps each day. Still a Long road ahead. Sub mariners never give up. All the best Bob & Gail.
Nov 12 
Update on Bob. On life support. Can't breath on his own. Got infection on 2nd operation.
His body is septic. Has 5 drains in to drain the poison. Can't speak or move. Heavily sedated. If they removed life support he will die. They haven't given him much hope. He is critically ill. Have been with him all week. He has a very long way to go
Months in hospital if they can clear the infection. Then they start on the rest of his probs. Very very weak but he is a fighter. Submariners don't give up. Poor babe. It Is so very hard to see him this way. Gail. Bobs partner.

 
Unfortunately, I can’t provide detail of Ian Prodger and Benny Hill but our prayers are with them and happy to say that through our National Vice, that our President is well and truly on the mend and Bob being Bob will provide us with his annual Christmas Message.
SEX!!!
Frowned on by our peers, but bloody funny

AROUND THE TRAPS (Inclusive Post Remembrance Day)

 
Don Currel and his team in QLD held their one and brilliant to see, Photo’s courtesy of Ruth (Pig Pen’s ((RIP)) Wife and with thanks:
 

 

UK

 
Hello Everyone
 
Greetings from Barrow in Furness
 
Please see two photos of the HMAS AE1 & AE2 Memorial in Ramsden Square in Barrow.  The Barrow Submariners held a Remembrance Ceremony at the Memorial at 0945 today (14th November 2021) prior to the main Barrow in Furness Remembrance Parade & Service.  In the first photo there are two Wreaths - one in the centre laid by Mark Butchart  (Vice Chairman of the Barrow Submariners Association) and the second, on the right, was laid on behalf of the BAE Shipyard - formerly Vickers - who built AE1 & AE2
 
The second photo shows Ken Collins (of the Barrow Subvets) with Scarlett - who laid the third Wreath - the one on the left with the green edging - which Scarlett made herself.  Scarlett has laid a tribute herself for three of the last four years.  She decided to do this after she noticed by chance that the name of the 3rd Hand of HMAS AE1 was called Scarlett - although no relation.  Scarlett has now involved her School (St Pius Roman Catholic School in Barrow) in holding an Annual Remembrance Service to which the Veterans Associations are invited.
 
Some 30 people and six standard bearers attended the AE1 & AE2 Ceremony representing Submariners, the RAF Association, the Royal British Legion and the Duke of Lancaster's Regimental Association.
 
Dear Submariners and Families of Submariners,
 
Just touching base with you all again. Since last Remembrance Day, sadly our numbers have grown on the Honour Roll Wall as you will see in the attached photograph. This year, for the first time, we saw the following 11 Submariners included namely, PO Gordon Anderson, LS ‘Jelly’ Barnes, LEUT Stanley Godbold, CMDR Norman Holbrook VC, WO Bill Hosie, CPO ‘Jerry’ Lewis, AB Tom Liddane, VADM Ian McDougall AC AFSM, PO Kerry Thompson, CPO Henry Thompson and CPO Gary McGinn. How ironic to have 11 more submariners for the 11th Hour and 11 Month ….
 
Thank You for those families who contacted me by phone, email, text to say you couldn’t be there on the day and requested Poppies be placed alongside your loved one(s). It was lovely to have seen wives, sons, daughters, daughters-in-law and close friends attend to be part of this important service and to be able to place a poppy alongside their individual Plaque. There was a visiting American who had seen the USN plaque on the Honour Roll Wall, the day before, and asked if any family was from the States? He was quite emotional when placing a poppy alongside CPhM Harold C Lane plaque for the Lane family (our only American), plus this American provided 2 photographs of USS Bowfin. Dr Michael White OAM QC represented the family of CMDR ND Holbrook VC RN by placing a poppy for them.
 
This year saw around 50 in attendance. Our newly elected President CMDR Andy Clowes RANR gave a heartfelt talk about the importance of Remembrance Day and in particular the role of submariners. The Submariners Prayer and the Ode to Remembrance was given before the Last Post and 1 minute silence. Emotionally we all sang the National Anthem, in tune of course. The 4 flags were brought to half-mast then to full mast at the end of proceedings. VIP’s on the day were  Cr Vicki Howard  Councillor for Central Ward BCC, Mr Trevor Evans MP LNP representative and Former Senator Claire Moore ALP Senator for Queensland along with SAA QLD INC members.
 
The Village Newspaper journalists were present, so we should see an article in the next VNP edition and expect to see other photos later on. The Café at Submariners Walk Heritage Trail was busy serving coffee and food. The weather was predicting 100% rain on the day but the submariners God over turned that prediction and no rain was seen.
 
 

 You can find a copy of "The Submariners Embankment Parade 2021" here
 
WA had their usual and always well attended
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SA I’m sure had something but not received
 
NSW everyone did their own thing, but well supported by Submariners around the State and their respective RSL’s as was VIC and Cuss Hall in NT.
 
ACT another big one but sadly no photos or Order of Service
 
Not a big fan of FB but usually look at PODCAST and see what is going on. Absolutely gob smacked to see Wally Wallen at the Gold Coast in his capacity as an Elder blessing young Children during “Schoolies Week” ONYA Wal you champion. Who would have thought that Wally was a friendly fore endie who loved his Mates and a drink would answer the call.
 
Jeffy Boy Stein and Steve Thomas have completed their Grey Nomad trecks and are home safe and sound and COVID restrictions lifted in most States should see many more out and about this Christmas. Just a thought, open up your doors over the silly season in fact, leave them open wherever you are and give up a bed or three or four for our Girls and Guys travelling around AUS. Your can always contact the State Secretaries to grab your Mates Number and address.
I have John Merrick (Milly) knocking on my door over XMAS which will scare the crap out of the wife.
 
Lindsay Peck a blast from the past and CAPT Ken Greig, Ken Greenwood, Pup Morrow all been in contact with and even Collins Class sailors serving and just out of the Mob are expressing interest in the SAA which is encouraging and welcome.
 


FUNNIES

(as always, if your sense of humor is not within the realm of insanity, do not go to the Coxswains Store. It is for those with a unique Submariners sense of humor and not for the faint hearted. Go to this link Guys and Girls (https://www.submarinesaustralia.com/upperiscope2/coxsnsgrot.html)
Words to ponder.   
A REMARKABLE COLLECTION OF APHORISMS     . . . 



  





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  Debate
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Remember Einstein's comment:  "There is a major difference between   intelligence and stupidity; intelligence has its limits."
 
The 5 Riddles…..
 
THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST FIVE RIDDLES I HAVE SEEN... 
THE ANSWERS ARE AT THE BOTTOM. 
RIDDLE 5 IS AMAZING. 
IT SHARPENS THOSE GENES IN YOUR BRAIN 
AND STALLS ALZHEIMER'S FOR YEARS …. 
 
 
1. A murderer is condemned to death. He has to choose between three rooms. 
The first is full of raging fires, the second is full of 
assassins with loaded guns and the third is full of lions that haven't eaten in 3 years. 
Which room is safest for him? 
 
 
- / - 
 
 
2. A woman shoots her husband. Then she holds him under water for over 
5 minutes.  Finally, she hangs him but 5 minutes later they both go out 
together and enjoy a wonderful dinner together.  How can this be? 
 
 
- / - 
 
 
3. What is black when you buy it, red when you use it and grey when you 
throw it away? 
 
 
- / - 
 
 
4. Can you name three consecutive days without using the words 
Wednesday, Friday or Sunday? 
 
 
- / - 
 
 
5. This is an unusual paragraph. I'm curious as to just how quickly you 
can find out what is so unusual about it.  It looks so ordinary and 
plain that you would think nothing was wrong with it.  In fact, nothing 
is wrong with it!  It is highly unusual though.  Study it and think about 
it, but you still may not find anything odd.  But if you work at it a bit, you might find out. 
Try to do so without any coaching! 
 
 
 
THE ANSWERS TO ALL FIVE THE RIDDLES ARE BELOW: 
Answers: 
 
 
 
1. The third room. Lions that haven't eaten in three years are dead. 
That one was easy, right? 
 
 
 
2. The woman was a photographer.  She shot a picture of her husband, 
developed it and hung it up to dry (shot; held under water; and hung). 
 
 
3. Charcoal, as it is used in barbecuing. 
 
 
 
4. Sure you can name three consecutive days, yesterday, today, and 
tomorrow! 
 
 
 
5. The letter "e" which is the most common letter used in the English 
language does not appear even once in the paragraph. 
 
 
 
 
I’ll be getting Alzheimer’s any time now. 
How did you do?

Wraps it up for another fortnight and VMT to our Contributors who keep us on depth. Fair whack not included but Mailchimp is a Chump with what can be included. Take care and stay safe.
 
 

Shut and Clipped for this week


Yours Aye 
 
Greg Jones #6
coxswain@submarinesaustralia.com
0432 559 283

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